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To: steve dietrich who wrote (181674)	2/13/2006 9:47:58 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Prediction. Because of ill health, libby?? and this silliness and a desire by the republicans to get their next candidate in place, Cheney will resign before his terms is up and they will try to appoint, er i mean annoint a successor. So who will that be? Today i am thinking condi and actually hoping for a condi/hillary race. Men have fucked things up for too long whether liberal dudes like you or more conservative folk like me. PS women will eventually reproduce without us and without sex. I am looking for another planet to live on with no islamic extremists and pretty gals who know their place (ggg)

To: steve dietrich who wrote (181674)	2/13/2006 6:00:33 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Bush Learned Within Three Hours That Cheney Shot Hunter By MARIA NEWMAN nytimes.com ( Was Cheney drunk? Was ANY law enforcement investigation done? Was he breathalysed, as any OTHER hunter would have been? ) President Bush was informed within three hours that Vice President Dick Cheney had shot a fellow hunter in South Texas on Saturday afternoon, the White House said today. The shooting, which occurred at about 5:30 p.m., left a prominent Austin lawyer and Republican campaign supporter, Harry Whittington, wounded by shotgun pellets in the neck, shoulder and chest. "Chief of Staff Andy Card called the president around 7:30 p.m . to inform him that there was a hunting accident," a statement released late today by the White House said. "He did not know the vice president was involved at that time. Subsequent to the call, Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove spoke with Mrs. Armstrong. He then called the president shortly before 8:00 p.m. to update him and let him know the Vice President had accidentally shot Mr. Whittington." In a contentious briefing with the White House press corps earlier about a subject that captivated the capital and news reports today, Scott McClellan, the president's spokesman, said he himself did not learn until about 6 a.m. on Sunday that it was Mr. Cheney who had shot Mr. Whittington, 78, when the two were on a weekend quail hunting trip along with several others at the Armstrong Ranch. Mr. Whittington is still listed in stable condition at the intensive care unit of Christus Spohn Memorial Hospital in nearby Corpus Christi, Tex. Peter Banko, the hospital administrator, told reporters today that Mr. Whittington would be moved out of the intensive care unit later in the day but that no date had yet been set for him to leave the hospital. The White House has been criticized for not publicly reporting the incident, or details of what happened, even up to today, when Mr. McClellan deflected most questions about the matter to the vice president's office. News of the shooting was first reported on the Web site of The Corpus Christi Caller-Times, after the owner of the ranch, Katherine Armstrong, called reporters there late Sunday morning to tell them of the incident, which had taken place about 18 hours earlier. Ms. Armstrong, who was with the hunting party at the time of the shooting, told The Caller-Times that Mr. Cheney turned to shoot quail that had just flown into the air, accidentally peppering one side of Mr. Whittington's body. She said Mr. Cheney was unaware Mr. Whittington had approached him from behind, as the Texas lawyer had not followed hunting protocol and announced his presence to the other hunters. "This is of course not something that you want to happen, but it does happen sometimes," she told the newspaper. "It's a risk when any shooting sport is involved." Mr. McClellan was questioned intensely by the White House press corps today about why the White House never released the information itself and why it was left to a private citizen to report to the world that the vice president of the United States had been involved in a shooting. They also seemed frustrated that Mr. McClellan could not tell them at the briefing exactly when Mr. Bush learned that the vice president himself had shot Mr. Whittington. Later in the afternoon, after the briefing, the White House put out a statement providing details about what the president knew and when. At the briefing, Mr. McClellan said about the delay in getting the word out: "The very first priority was making sure that Mr. Whittington was getting the medical care he needed," Mr. McClellan said. "Secondary to that is gathering the facts so you can provide that information to the public. Those facts were coming back to us throughout the evening and into the morning." Mr. McClellan would not answer questions about whether Mr. Cheney had called the president himself to tell him about it. Mr. McClellan seemed on the defensive several times during the briefing about why the fullest accounts of the incident seemed to come from Ms. Armstrong, who told The Associated Press and CNN on Sunday that it was her idea to go to the press. "I said, Mr. Vice President, this is going to be public, and I'm comfortable going to the hometown newspaper," she told The A.P. in a telephone interview. "And he said, you go ahead and do whatever you are comfortable doing." Mr. McClellan said, "The vice president thought that Ms. Armstrong should be the first one to go out there and provide that information to the public, which she did. She reached out early Sunday morning to do so." He added: "I think you can always look back at these issues and look at how to do a better job." * Copyright 2006The New York Times Company