To: average joe who wrote (8315 ) 2/16/2006 4:57:23 PM From: Ichy Smith Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37500 It is hard to defeat someone that has the courage of their convictions and willing to blow themselves to smithereens to advance their agenda. If someone like this arrives on the scene the west is in big trouble. Actually it isn't. When the anger in the west gets large enough, and it will, then defeating a people who hold places dear is easy. What would happen if Mecca became uninhabitable for a century? What happens if Iran uses a nuke and Jerusalem becomes a nuclear hot spot? In the short term it is easy to be swayed by people who blow themselves up. Israel has been hampered in this because of Western weak stomachs. At the point that anger hits the boiling point, at the point where Christianity becomes enraged instead of inconvenienced, there won't be much of a battle. There is a delicate balance between inconvenience and rage, at some point there will be a mistake, the White house would have been one. If they had hit the white house on 9-11 Iraq would already be won. A substitute for oil is a tipping point, one already worked out and in production I might add. When we don't need oil, being nice to the Arabs is a moot point. I think bombing Jerusalem or Rome might tip things. But it will come, and I fear it won't be pretty for the Muslims in North America. I had a grandfather who was interned in the first war, and when they came to intern him in the second war, he had children in the 3 services. Camps are an automatic reaction in the North American psyche, for members of suspect groups. I remember one of my Aunts talking about how horrible it was being a "German" child, after WW I..... And don't forget the Orange Lodge streak that runs through much of Canadian Culture and the Knights of Columbus, both dedicated to fighting for their religions. They may be relatively dormant, but you would be surprised how quickly they come back to life.