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To: Doren who wrote (51169)	2/16/2006 8:56:47 PM
From: Done, gone.	Respond to of 213177

OSX is not very good at shutting down when you have apps open. It's too cautions to shut them down for you, which often hangs up the entire shutdown process, forcing force quits on your part. Shut down all your open apps manually, then shut down your machine = zero hangups.

To: Doren who wrote (51169)	2/16/2006 11:33:33 PM
From: Don Green	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

So Doren, what kind of speeds do you get when booting up your various mac, Fastest and slowest and the norm? Thanks

To: Doren who wrote (51169)	2/17/2006 12:17:21 PM
From: inaflash	Respond to of 213177

I have problems shutting down my Mac sometimes. 1) Microsoft Entourage 2) Microsoft Word 3) iTunes 4) Quicktime Many times I have to force quit these before the OS allows a shutdown. I never used to put my OS9 machines to sleep but sleep on OSX works great. I do reboot my OSX machine to clear problems but not nearly as often as any of the other machines I've owned. Most of the problems are application related rather than OS related IMHO. Odd that Apple's software is the second least stable. One would expect Microsoftware to be unstable but Apple has no excuse. That's your problem, you're running Microsoft software. Anytime you run Microsoft software, expect to find bugs and crashes! Seriously, (Microsoft bashing aside), do iTunes and Quicktime crash on a virgin system (one that doesn't have Microsoft or other 3rd party software loaded)? The problem with finding these terminal crashes is that it's difficult to point the finger on one specific program, and often, the program that crashes isn't the one that caused the problem, but from a problem in another loaded program. Funny thing is that I run iTunes and Quicktimes more on a Windows XP system, and they're excellent! Easy to install and rock solid. My experience on MacOSX is less, but similar (no Microsoft software on my Mac :-). You just echoed the "not nearly as often as" which has been a major improvement in both Mac and Windows worlds. During some periods, running Windows 98 or ME, I would reboot 2-3 times a day average, some days more. With Windows XP, that's down to about 2-3 times a month. Much depends on what software you're running. I've become a big proponent of cutting down the number of items loaded on a system, but it's difficult when every software you load wants to install another item, and you have to work to eliminate them from loading. There's a lot of fat in most running systems, and that's without the viruses, worms, spyware, etc.