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To: Crabbe who wrote (4382)2/17/2006 8:32:19 PM
From: gg cox  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 218633
 
"This machine could be easily modified to route the ear to one truck and the stalk to another truck, modifying the process slightly but giving the farmer an additional crop to sell. Should the price be $30 per ton, that would constitute a nice little profit for the farmer as compared to leaving it on the ground."

Crabbe, what happens to the nations topsoil when everything is stripped off for food and the ethanol plant?A partial answer is found here..

nrel.gov

Bottom lines "when done resposibly"and when only 50 percent of stover is used, it is possible, but i am skeptical because of the ongoing problem with all of us ..GREED.There are no simple answers every cause has an effect and America's average topsoil depth is at all time low and going lower.

"Desertification
The United Nations Environmental Program defines desertification as
"impoverishment of arid, semi-arid, and sub-arid ecosystems by the impact
of man's activities." This process leads to reduced productivity of
desirable plants, alterations in the biomass and in the diversity of life
forms, accelerated soil degradation, and increased hazards for human
occupancy."

""Scientists believe it takes
between 200 and 1,000 years to create one inch of topsoil under natural
conditions. It is estimated that the direct and indirect costs of soil
erosion in the U.S. alone exceed $44 billion a year.""

from"Topsoil loss"...here

prout.org



To: Crabbe who wrote (4382)2/18/2006 1:37:50 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 218633
 
I can't eat plankton. I eat meat and "waste" a lot of resources to get meat.

soya has to be planted. transported. crushed. and fed to cattle for you to eat a steak. Chickens and pigs and wheat and vegetables... There are always costs involved and 'friction'. But me and you are inviable because costs a lot to keep us fed.

Just an addedum:
We raise cattle at the open fields and then eat grass and we have a huge competitiveness in beef. To compete with us they throw subsidies.


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