To: greenspirit who wrote (182097 ) 2/18/2006 4:11:00 PM From: Maurice Winn Respond to of 281500 There is more than a hint of Fuhrerism about people in the normal course of events and it's not surprising that it comes out in small ways with King George II. But listening in to foreigners conversing with Americans is more of a technical breach of the listening-in rules than marching people off to the gas chambers. Guantanamo Bay has people who are forced to eat, not who die from no food being available. While there has no doubt been plenty of nasty bullying, I imagine it's quite trivial compared with what the actual brownshirts got up to, let alone the SS and high-ranking thugs in private in specially-designed interrogation centres. Nowadays, I'd say there wouldn't be much brown-shirting of USA prisoners given the prosecutions of those caught. Brownshirts in Fuhrerland got a pat on the back and promotion, not prosecuted. Our own Helen Clark is quite imperious and gets away with crimes for which the normal human would be hung, drawn and quartered. The government spends $millions haranguing citizens about how speed kills, yet her motorcade could zoom along at 160kph to catch a flight to a footy match. Among other things. When there was too much stink, the drivers were prosecuted. Imagine if they'd said "No, I'll just do the speed limit". Would they have got a promotion? No. They did what was expected. Go lickety split and be sacrificed if necessary. Prime Ministerial footy matches are vital national interest. It's why people go into politics to order people around. They think they can tell everyone else what to do, take the money, get the girls. They like being saluted and fussed over. How arrogant to presume to dictate to other people how they should live. Mqurice