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To: coug who wrote (12722)	2/19/2006 12:22:20 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541602

I think there are many ways to frame "the way it is". Since we all see the world differently, there are very different ways to put things, and explain "the way things are"- some ways appeal to more people than others. That's what I'm talking about. And I think if there is a way to make something good out of the mess of Iraq, we should try to do it. We've wasted a lot of lives, and a ton of money- if there is a way to salvage something from this fiasco, I'm for it.

To: coug who wrote (12722)	2/19/2006 1:23:17 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541602

As evidenced by my statements about marketing candidates, I just don't have much use for terms like marketing and PR. Just tell it like it is and reach a truthful conclusion the quicker the better, no matter where the truth lies... :) I think you have conflated marketing with dishonesty. While there would be no shortage of examples to prove that point, marketing and branding don't have to be an attempt to trick you into buying something shoddy or that you don't need. When I climb up on my Dems-need-to-brand-better soapbox, I am advocating that it be done with integrity and in as straightforward a manner as possible. But as with Kleenex or Lexus, you should have a positive image of the product, or at least a clear idea of what it is and does, when you read or hear its name, something the Dems have not yet accomplished.