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To: geode00 who wrote (182146)	2/19/2006 7:23:27 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 281500

'Dire Predictions On Global Warming'...Don't Miss The Last Segment Of 60 Minutes Tonight... cbsnews.com Dire Predictions On Global Warming Feb. 16, 2006 (CBS) Rising ocean temperatures have increased the intensity of hurricanes like the one that decimated New Orleans, says a scientist in a 60 Minutes report on global warming. Bob Corell, one of the world's foremost authorities on climate change, talks to Scott Pelley this Sunday, Feb. 19, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. "The oceans in the Northern Hemisphere are the warmest they’ve been on record," says Corell. "When they get up in that temperature, they spin off hurricanes. … The one thing we can say with a fairly high degree of confidence is the severity of the storms … these cyclonic events like hurricanes and cyclones … they’re going to be more severe." Corell is interviewed in Greenland above the Arctic Circle, where the rising temperature has caused glacial ice that's been in place for eons to recede steadily for the last few decades. "This is bellwhether, a barometer … the warning that things are coming," says Corell, who also predicts lowlands will be inundated by waters from the melting glaciers in the future. "In 10 years here in the arctic, we see what the rest of the planet will see in 25 or 35 years from now," he says. "The entire planet is out of balance." Whether the change in temperature is a natural or manmade phenomenon has been a matter of debate, but Paul Mayewski of the University of Maine says the proof that man is responsible is in the ancient ice at the top of the world. There is evidence of high levels of "greenhouse gases," like carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels that contribute to warming the earth’s surface, in the core samples of ice he collected in Greenland. "We haven’t seen CO2 levels like this in hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions of years," says Mayewski. "It all points to something that has changed and something that has impacted the system which wasn’t doing it more than 100 years ago. It’s human activity." The Bush Administration spends $5 billion a year on climate change research, but the president refuses to sign a treaty to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Corell says the sooner we curb the emissions, the better for generations to come. Even total cessation of the burning of fossil fuels will not stop the warming immediately, and to continue burning them will affect the planet into the distant future — perhaps thousands of years. "I try to tell [policymakers] exactly what we know scientifically. The science is, I believe, unassailable," Corell tells Pelley.

To: geode00 who wrote (182146)	2/20/2006 1:57:59 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Actually, I believe that the idea of unfettered capitalism as being an 'efficient' and 'effective' allocator of resources has been bashed in the head and sent toppling to the ground.> I don't think people say public assets, such as the air, ocean, rivers, parks and other things should be polluted by unfettered capitalism. Obviously there have to be fetters. But that doesn't mean we should have dopey government bureaucrats allocating resources. They ALWAYS do it badly. [Maybe something was luckily done well, but I can't think of an example]. But more than capitalism, it's free markets which do the good allocating. Capital just means rewarding those who make the good capital allocation decisions by them getting more capital to allocate. Which is as it should be. Those who make bad decisions lose their capital and have to get a job more in their ability range. I don't think King George II is privatizing everything, or much of anything. <Who wishes to live in a world dominated by violence, greed, self-absorption and venality? Who? > That's easy. Anyone who doesn't vote for Libertarian politics. They might not think they favour those things, but ignorance of what they cause doesn't change the outcome. They get all those things. Libertarians can't be self-absorbed or they won't sell anything to those they want to trade with. They have to have a well-developed idea of what other people want. Meaning empathy. They specifically are not violent unless defending themselves and their property. etc... Mqurice