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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (276418)2/24/2006 3:46:19 PM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572599
 

Elroy, Israel is smack dab in the middle of the 1.2 billion Muslims

So you're of the opinion that the modern state of Israel should have never been formed?


Well, as I've said. I'm neither Jewish nor Muslim, so am outside to the whole issue, and I wasn't alive when it got "formed" (if that what you call it when a bunch of people declare themselves a nation, and the neighboring nations disagree, but Bolivia (the UN) agrees), so for me it's not that big a deal.

But my objective outsider's view is that the opinions of the 1.2 billion people who surround Israel and have a view on Israel's existance should be given more weight than they get in the current system of world governance.

If you are what I understand you to be on this board (a Korean American Christian...), then I would expect you to understand the whole issue as little as I do. There are ~60 Muslim countries, so who cares if there is one Jewish country (I don't)? but evidently they (1/2 billions people) do.

The 60 Muslim countries think the one Jewish country should not be there, smack in the middle of those Muslim countries, where before it was a multi-ethnic, multi-religious region. That makes sense to me. And as an American, I don't like the idea of a "religious, ethnic" nation. I like the idea of a nation where all men are treated equal, based on merit, regardless of religion or family. Israel has some of those characteristics, but their immigration policy (which defines who gets to be an Israeli) violates them.

At the end of the day, I'm on SI because I like talking about tech stocks, not politics, so being neither Jewish nor Muslim, I hope they can solve their problems themselves.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (276418)2/25/2006 2:28:50 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572599
 
Elroy, Israel is smack dab in the middle of the 1.2 billion Muslims

So you're of the opinion that the modern state of Israel should have never been formed?


I don't know about Elroy but I don't think it should have put where it was put. And I don't know if there would have been a better location. I would feel the same way if some Native Americans went to the UN and insisted that the state of Colorado be turned into a country for the Navahoes. While I don't like the way the Native Americans were treated in this country during their conquest by the European settlers, I am not about to right a wrong by giving up one of our current states. Would you?

The Jews were driven out of Palestine........I don't know all the details but I am sure it was not very nice. However, I don't see why the present occupants of Palestine should be forced to make up for a wrong done thousands of years ago. It would have been a nice solution had it been acceptable to the Arabs already living in Palestine. However, they objected almost from day one, and the Brits ignored their complaints just as America ignores their complaints now.

Instead, the Brits gave into Zionist demands until too late they realized they had made a mistake. When the Brits stopped acceding to Zionist demands, the Zionists took matters into their own hands and began blowing up the Brits. In frustration, the Brits handed the problem over to the UN and then the US stepped into the mess. The rest is history.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (276418)2/28/2006 8:30:48 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572599
 
I am of that opinion as a matter of fact.
And IMO it doesn't take a rocket scientist, nor does it call for anti semites to understand that.

But it was done and now we all have to deal with it in a realistic way, if Arabs, Jews or just plain World Citizens.

Taro