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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: philv who wrote (10199)	2/24/2006 2:54:10 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Respond to of 22250

Far more often than not if you ask "who benefits "-- that question will lead to the right answer. Their may be some ambiguity re: US goals re: Iraq, but Israel and its neo-con amen corner has always favored breaking up Iraq (and other Arab states as well) into smaller, weaker entities.

To: philv who wrote (10199)	2/24/2006 4:10:26 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Phil > if one looks to who benefits, one could logically conclude Iran does, in that it unites the Shiites and undermines the US position in Iraq Virtually everything that has happened in Iraq since the US/UK occupation has benefited Iran but common sense tells us that the occupation was not done with the intention of benefitting Iran, indeed, it could be argued that the intention was to create a secular state, as it once was, but this time a democratic one rather than under a dictator. Unfortunately, those who believe that have have now seen that such an eventuality is impossible, certainly in the foreseeable future, since democracy in Iraq means an Islamic state under sharia rule. Despite their political and historic differences, both the shiites and the sunnis accept this and probably the Kurds too. > I don't know who is responsible, and for all I know it may just have been an extreme Sunni group. By why hit the mosques and not just one, many? The perps could just as easily have put car bombs in any busy street or in the marketplace or even try to kill Al Sadr, himself. Because no-one claimed responsibility, and even if they did, in fact, one has to read the message as it was written. As I read it, this was an attack on Islam, a desecration of their places of worship, made to appear as if it was done by the secular enemy of the Shiites, namely the Sunnis. But the Sunnis deny it -- and so, incidentally, do the victims, the Shiites. Therefore, if this was an attempt to create dissension between the two groups the plan backfired miserably. In the circumstances, one has no alternative but to conclude it was a "false flag" operation -- and in that event the finger of suspicion points directly to the one whose motto is "By way of deception thou shalt do war".