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To: koan who wrote (7089)	2/24/2006 10:58:12 PM
From: loantech	Respond to of 78418

koan all tue and not so good. But then again maybe most of it will not come to pass. I still see a lot of stocks have already done 3-4-5 baggers. We have to correct sometime. Not sure if it is climbing a wall of worry everyone is starting to get in. I am still holding all. Like a deer F-R-O-Z-E-N in the headlights. <g>

To: koan who wrote (7089)	2/25/2006 1:38:52 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78418

Accurate weather prediction to 10 days out, which could be done by ganged computers in a WAN, in a stolen cycle program, would save people billions of dollars in hurricane damage, tornado damage, crop damage and other business losses. It has been known for 50 years that all it takes to predict weather accurately long range is taking into account millions of micro factors and projecting them scientifically forward. The butterfly effect, that says weather is a highly unstable chaotic system is nonsense. It takes so much time for weather to develop over thousands of miles, that we can see it is exactly the opposite. It is very stable and very predictable. Weather just has far more factors than previous computing horsepower could contemplate. In other words, weather is like a disordered Mongol horde, with each warrior individually attacking some distant point from 1000's of directions. When they all get to one point, there is no telling what will happen. But if you could follow each warrior on his horse as he negotiated similar terrain, then you could predict the final formation and disposition a week later. Weather is just a bunch of marbles bouncing off walls. The paths can all be computed, like ray tracing. The formulae are simple. It just takes a lot of computers. The really hard thing is to get a million people to see that and co-operate on such a mundane project. They will get behind little green men sending them messages.. with no earthly benefit. But knowing whether to wear galoshes to the office next week, who cares? Ignorance and small mindedness is catching. Ten university students could write the program in 6 months. The formulae are already known and widely distributed. They could deploy and debug it in another six months. The repercussions could benefit man like no other human project since women took up eating apples. One of the odd things is the system that feeds the data back to central, is that it needs massive redundancy (30% possibly) and dummy systems (dummy runs). Some people's data needs to be completely sham! Strange. Like using random numbers to do statistics. EC<:-}

To: koan who wrote (7089)	2/25/2006 8:10:58 AM
From: Metacomet	Respond to of 78418

...and 40%, including a substantial number who post here, would vote for the dolt a third time, if they could....

To: koan who wrote (7089)	2/25/2006 11:40:24 AM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 78418

<I see little chance the world will calm down enough for gold to fall much> Well, I don't think anyone ever thought what was good for gold would be "pleasent" to look at. :) <He is now teaching physics at Portland state. anyway he says everyone is cringing. Temperatures were 8 degrees above normal in the gulf states in January so not much of a chance for the gulf to cool down.> Physics seems a valuable tool... I'm sure he'll do well in the coming downturn. In physics terms, Bush seems to be of the mind that since we don't know how, if, or which of "Lorenzo's Butterfly's" is involved with global warming, we should stop studying L. butterflys. Too bad, L.Butterflys will be important in many other (currently) unrecognized ways. :) Interesting that he seems willing to spend billions on Space using the logic rejected with climate: ie. "we'll undoubtedly discover many valuable things". DAK