To: E. Charters who wrote (7122 ) 2/25/2006 4:43:45 PM From: koan Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78416 Hi Charters, spoke with my son in law. He said you are mostly right, but not completely. He says there are now 1,000's of people working on exactly what you are talking about, but the problem is that prediction is "non linear" and scales are different i.e. some of those Mongolians are riding horses and some camels (my analogy and I could have misunderstood him)-lol. they were jsut leavig so it was a quick converstation. You are right that as computing power increases prediction will/is getting better. One thing he did not know which I saw recently on the learning channel re rogue waves. For decades all the mathematicians, engineer's, statisticians, etc had the same prediction that a 100 foot rogue wave should only happen once every 10,000 years. Yet, time after time sailors reported rogue waves 100 feet and ships seem to be sinking by such a force, yet the entire scientific world said that it could nto be true. All the ships in the world were built using those statisitcs. To make a long story short, satellite imaging showed 100 foot rogue waves were almost common place. If this was random then all the ships would to have to be rebuilt to withstand 100 tons per square meter of hull rather than the 15 or 25 tons today. They then found out that currents crashing into each other could cause 100 foot waves (like south africa), so they thought they could just go around them (and not have to build a new fleet). But right after that ships sank in the antartic which has no such currents. finally some little genius found out it was a "quantum effect" that was causing the 100 foot waves proving all the known math wrong. My son in law did not know of this discovery and it may be that weather also is a product to some esoteric degree of the quantum effect. Heisenburg uncertainty principle. Last year they could not even track the hurricanes very well only one day out. Very large standard deviation. My son in law did say they are pretty good now 3 and 5 days out. Cheers, Chuck