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To: AK2004 who wrote (276711)	2/26/2006 8:39:02 AM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572918

>The Palestinian Arabs had at present no will of their own. Neither have they ever developed any specifically Palestinian nationalism. Does this matter? That was what, 1930? They certainly have it now. -Z

To: AK2004 who wrote (276711)	2/26/2006 8:47:17 AM
From: Taro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572918

First a correction: Sorry for incorrectly mentioning Peres as part of the bad guys killing off Bernadotte. The correct name was Yitzhak Shamir. As for the rest of the story including the official Israeli acknowledgment of Bernadotte's achievements in his work to save thousands of Jews from the Nazis, I prefer to give you a couple of links to study. When you have read that and thus know what you talk about, you are welcome to come back to criticize Folke Bernadotte. Taro May 1995 Israel pays tribute to Sweden's Count Bernadotte for saving Jews during holocaust Israel Line - a daily summary of the Israeli Press: Israel paid tribute Sunday to Sweden for its efforts in saving thousands of Jews during World War II, YEDIOT AHARONOT reported. In a ceremony at the Tel Aviv Museum entitled "Back to Life," special attention was paid to Sweden's Count Folke Bernadotte for his efforts in saving thousands of Jews. After the war, Bernadotte was assassinated during a visit to Jerusalem. Speaking at the ceremony, Foreign Minister Shimon Peres said he was deeply saddened by the assassination of Count Bernadotte and, on behalf of the Government, denounced the action. lysator.liu.se en.wikipedia.org

To: AK2004 who wrote (276711)	2/27/2006 1:41:35 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572918

Is this the guy you're talking about.......the Zionists assassinated him? "Bernadotte's plan called for the Jewish State to relinquish the Negev and Jerusalem to Transjordan and to receive the western Galilee. Bernadotte advocated a total demilitarization of Jerusalem and blamed the Jewish forces for "aggressive" behavior in the city. The boundaries proposed were similar to what had been proposed prior to the partition vote, and had been rejected by all sides. Now, the proposal was being offered after the Arabs had gone to war to prevent partition and a Jewish state had been declared. The Jews and Arabs both rejected the plan. Fighting resumed on July 8, 1948 raging until another cease-fire was arranged July 18th. LEHI was a Jewish extremist group, also called the "Stern Gang", engaging in a campaign of "personal terror" against the British in Palestine. When the IDF was established on May 31, 1948, LEHI was disbanded and its members enlisted in the IDF. But in Jerusalem LEHI remained an independent organization, arguing that at the time of the proclamation of independence the city's fate had not yet been determined. For LEHI, Count Folke Bernadotte, as UN mediator for "Palestine," came to symbolize the foreign oppression of the Jewish claim to the Land of Israel. LEHI called Bernadotte a British agent and said he had cooperated with the Nazis in World War II. The organization considered his plan to be a threat to its goal of an independent Israel with expanded territory on both sides of the Jordan River. Bernadotte was assassinated by a LEHI team in Jerusalem on September 17, 1948, an act that resulted in the elimination of the LEHI organization by the Jewish leaders of Israel. Mainstream Jewish leaders were horrified by the assassination. David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel, responded to the murder in the strongest terms. Although LEHI thought their act was for the State of Israel, Ben-Gurion immediately denounced it as terrorist murder and declared: Arrest all Stern gang leaders. Surround all Stern bases. Confiscate all arms. Kill any who resist. The regular Israeli army positioned itself in Jerusalem, and the orders were given to disband the LEHI camp through mass arrests. The government outlawed the organization's branch in Jerusalem and shut down its publication, Hamivrak. Two of the leaders of LEHI, Natan Yellin-Mor and Mattityahu Shmuelevitz, were sentenced to long jail terms by a military court, but were later released in a general amnesty. Yitzhak Shamir, another of the top LEHI leaders, reputedly played a role in planning the assassination; however, he was never tried and went on to become Prime Minister of Israel. A little recognized result of the tragedy of Count Bernadotte's assassination was the arrival of the Israeli Army in Jerusalem in response. Because the Army was there, sections of Jerusalem remained in the hands of Israel under the truce agreements that ended the War of Independence, rather than have the whole area fall into the Arab-held zone. palestinefacts.org