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To: greenspirit who wrote (159225)	2/27/2006 11:15:21 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794015

<What the U.S. should do is make a public announcement for a period of five years we will no longer patrol the Pacific with our ships and submarines. > Giggle... that would be so funny. Knock yourselves out. Go on. Do it!! Sissies! All big talk. That won't happen. Typical bullies. Thinking others will pee their pants if they aren't around to provide "protection" as long as the wallet is handed over. As I wrote, the USA acts in their own interests, not those of NZ. Which is not surprising. That's what people do. Even if they pretend to be altruistic, that's hypocrisy to make themselves feel even better still. "Oh look how generous I am. I am so wonderful St Peter will even let me have front row seats." I know that's cynical, but a spot of cynicism more than occasionally hits the spot. And anyway, why shouldn't people feel good when their own interests and helping somebody needing help coincide. Heard of teamwork? Maybe not. In case you hadn't heard, the "mutual defence" ANZUS deal had the NZ taken out 20 years ago by the USA so what you said has already been done. For a longgggg..... time. It is STILL going on. I haven't seen any pants-peeing around here* and for some reason, no pirates either. Weird eh? Though there was a scary threatening submarine once threatening a NZ vessel [about 1985 I think, a silly American one making sure there was at least some threat to bring home the dangers "out there" - that's called a protection racket like the Mafia conducts]. < Then, when New Zealanders stop peeing their pants> Usually, what you should do is just sail a ship into Auckland and take out a few people and structures to get compliance. Mafias don't depend on "bad guys" doing the dirty work. Just show who is boss. Niggers need a good whupping by massa to make them pee their pants in fear if they won't do as they are told. It's called gunboat diplomacy. Got to keep the serfs servile. Unsurprisingly, that sort of attitude gets Al Qaeda enjoying a lot of support, and means USA embassies around the world have to have BIG walls around them, not flower gardens. NZ embassies have flower gardens. Even though anyone could attack us easily enough. There's a book called How to Win Friends and Influence People. I'm not sure that threats are featured strongly. There was a steel-producing Scotsman called Andrew Carnegie carnegie.org built a library near where I grew up, which directly influenced me and resulted in all our investments going to QUALCOMM and Globalstar. I remember getting books out about rockets and science when I was about 7 or 8. Strange as it may seem, I didn't feel threatened in the slightest. Those Carnegies seemed to have a few clues. I know you were a military guy and we all like to feel useful, but the world isn't all made of nails, even if we are a hammer. When the Frogmen and woman attacked the Rainbow Warrior, the USA was nowhere to be seen, and I think was complicit in the attack. Along with Britain. All of whom wanted to show NZ what they could expect. Very brave! Well done. Killed a photographer with a family. Way to go. That sure showed them who's toughest [though not smartest or nicest]. Do a bit of marching and award medals all around. Mqurice * Local politicians pee their pants if somebody in their party suggests ditching the anti-nuclear legislation. Ask Google about "Gone by lunchtime" in New Zealand. Throw in "Don Brash" and see who won the election.