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To: epicure who wrote (13394)	2/27/2006 11:32:04 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541489

I do want to make sure hospitals provide a standard of care consistent with best practices- you entirely miss the duty that hospitals owe to patients first And you entirely miss the distinction between what a hospital should do and what is illegal for the hospital to do. If hospitals are violating medical standards, then the AMA and any other professional governing bodies are the folks who should fix the problem. They're the medical standards guys. There are lots and lots of things that people shouldn't do. We don't necessarily criminalize them.

To: epicure who wrote (13394)	2/27/2006 11:38:06 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541489

Let's all take a breath and cool down here, OK? Unfortunately, if I banned everyone who demonized the left or the right in violation of the thread TOU, we would hardly have anyone left. So it's going to crop up from time to time. I'd like to ask everyone again not to stoop to that level, and not to react (to the extent possible) when others do. The only way the thread works is if we all strive to take the high road. I agree with your point on abortion choice and had the same thought when I read the post you are responding to. Both sides have had a chance to highlight what they believe are hypocritical stances. Better to move on. Thanks.

To: epicure who wrote (13394)	2/27/2006 11:52:38 AM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541489

Of course you want to dictate. It's your belief that hospitals have a "duty" to tell new mothers that they must breast feed. Your underlying assumption is also that new mothers are too stupid to make their own decisions such that they might be influenced by what you call the hospital's tacit approval of formula. I find that way of thinking particularly illustrative of the left's paternalistic and rather elitist attitude about matters of choice. Your reference to abortion is the natural bounce back position for those seeking to control other choices across the board. I've never said I don't favor choice on the abortion issues. OTOH, you've taken a very specific position against choice in the hospital setting. Although you revamp it as a hospital duty issue, and decry use of hospitals as marketing arms, the bottom line is the same. You think hospitals should only encourage breast feeding and should not mention formula, regardless of whether a mother has to promptly return to work, etc. That's your opinion. Even if medical science indicates that breast feeding is best for babies, there is no law against formula. You just don't like the formula choice.