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To: kech who wrote (159395)	2/28/2006 10:16:46 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794015

Kech, "intentions to have programmes" is not a weapon which has gunsights: < I guess since Kiwi land isn't in the sights of these weapons, > The whole point of the invasion [as presented, though I didn't believe it and was aware of oil and other 'interests', such as revenge against Saddam] was to get the WMDs and force Saddam into compliance with UN resolutions. Paranoia is fear over unreal things. WMDs were unreal. It seemed fairly obvious to me that there were no [or trivial] WMDs. Sorry, I wasn't clear. There were two points. Condoleezza made assertions about a mushroom cloud in New York or some such [I'll ask Google in a minute] and Tony Blair was banging on about "WMDs ready to launch in 40 minutes" or some such. The British claimed to have such intelligence. Not that nuclear weapons were ready in 40 minutes. Nobody said the nuclear weapons were ready NOW. Condoleezza meant they would be ready one of these days if Saddam wasn't stopped now. No time to organize the UN and do things properly. Who needs the UN other than as a fig-leaf anyway [that's the attitude of many in the USA, which shows the hypocrisy of the cant about "love of democracy"]. See, your own "excerpts from 1992" quote is part of all the decommissioning of WMDs which were supplied by USA and allies. USA spies confirmed the WMDs were pretty much decommissioned. By the end of it, all that was left to find was intentions to have programmes. Programmes weren't even found. It was intentions to have programmes. As you know, intentions are just wishful thinking. You should see the intentions I have. They make Saddam look trivial. But they might or might not see the light of day in 3D reality. Here's a Boston Globe quote: <Speaking last week before the National Association of Black Journalists, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said, "Let us be very clear about why we went to war against Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein's regime posed a threat to the security of the United States and the world. This was a regime that had pursued, had used, and possessed weapons of mass destruction." Rice did not dare tread upon the issues that were not clear. Her cocksure posture could not hide the fact that she made no other mention of weapons of mass destruction in her prepared remarks. The United States has yet to find any after nearly five months of war and occupation. This was after a war buildup where Bush officials boasted they were certain where the weapons were. Just as significant is that there was not a single reference in her set speech about Saddam trying to acquire nuclear weapons. Before the war, Rice said, "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." The scary vision of mushroom clouds was repeated by Bush and General Tommy Franks, head of Central Command. Vice President Dick Cheney declared Saddam to be a "mortal threat" on his way to "nuclear blackmail." In a question-and-answer session after her speech, Rice continued to assert that she was "certain to this day that this regime was a threat, that it was pursuing a nuclear weapon." This is brazen, as Rice has yet to produce even a smoking gun. President Bush has already been shamed by his usage in his State of the Union address of the discredited claim that Saddam was trying to buy uranium in Africa. ... > 64.233.179.104 Surely you remember "We know where the WMDs are". They weren't. Not even forensic evidence that they had been there. BTW, North Korea and Iran have "intentions to have WMDs". Oh, hang on, North Korea got them. So they say anyway. Let's see a demonstration. But where's the invasion from the USA? Iran has BIG intentions. But no invasion to stop a realistic threat. Pakistan has them, but that's where Islamic Jihad is headquartered at the momement, so that's okay too? What the ...? What did Iraq have that those places didn't? That's right, sand and Saddam. Oh, not to mention a spot of oil. Plus proximity to Israel/Saudi Arabia. Mqurice