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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (182656)3/1/2006 11:25:35 AM
From: neolib  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
It's impossible to convert a true believer in the Big Guy [in your case the government bosses].

I'm not the least fan of government. Its just I'm not clueless about the fact that collective action can be useful.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (182656)3/1/2006 11:48:14 AM
From: Noel de Leon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Where can one find "capitalist free market competition"? Extolling "capitalist free market competition" without examples of this better society puts the discussion in an ivory tower light.

You do remember that "true" communists used the the excuse that a "true" communist state didn't exist and therefore one couldn't denigrate communism. One could only extoll communism because of its ideals(ivory tower ideals).

Here is a source on child labour in the 18th century.

gober.net

And another to support your anti government view.
"1833 Factory Act: In 1833 the Government passed a Factory Act to improve conditions for children working in factories. Young children were working very long hours in workplaces where conditions were often terrible. The basic act was as follows: No child workers under 9 years of age. Employers must have a medical or age certificate for child workers. Children between the ages of 9-13 to work no more than 9 hours a day. Children between 13-18 to work no more than 12 hours a day. Children are not to work at night. Two hours schooling each day for children. Four factory inspectors appointed to enforce the law throughout the whole of the country. However, the passing of this Act did not mean that overnight the mistreatment of children stopped."

spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk