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To: neolib who wrote (182825)	3/3/2006 5:01:52 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Churchill speaks" Powerline quotes Churchill on the Wahabbi: At Carolina Journal the John Locke Foundation has posted the February 10 speech by Winston Churchill III at the Foundation's anniversary dinner: "Churchill on Islamic fundamentalism." The speech quotes the older Churchill's 1921 comments on Wahabbi Islam in Parliament: A large number of [Saudi Arabia’s King] Bin Saud’s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relationship to orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvinism would have borne to Rome in the fiercest times of [Europe’s] religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette and, as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and blood-thirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina..." billmillan.blogspot.com

To: neolib who wrote (182825)	3/3/2006 7:25:14 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Your statements show an utterly lack of willingness to seek balanced solutions, hence you will never get a solution, but merely perpetuate the problem. Neo.. do any of us really know FOR A FACT that Israel has Nuclear weapons?? So far as I recall, they've NEVER admitted to possessing them (although it's widely believed they do). So what's the legal basis for withholding missile sales, especially since other missiles are available, or could be independently developed? After all, the Israelis have already launched their own Spy Satellites on their Shavit missile. So they have the technology, if they should so choose to spend the money to independently develop an anti-ship missile like the Harpoon. space.com So what tools would we use? Do we just accuse Israel of possessing Nukes when it has threatened NO ONE with a nuclear attack, nor even acknowleges possessing them? That, my friend, is where the problem is. We can admonish and warn the buyers of our weapons all we want. But with no evidence that they've done anything wrong, we're just p*ssing into the wind. Hawk