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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (182950)3/5/2006 3:18:58 PM
From: steve dietrich  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hell, the U.S. has what, billions unaccounted for in Iraq?



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (182950)3/5/2006 8:52:50 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Yeah.. right.. that's why UNMOVIC listed 26 areas which remained unresolved regarding Iraq's WMD programs.

That document is from March, 2003. It does not reflect what we know now. What I said is that Iraq's disclosures were in fact quite accurate. The fact that we or anybody else at the time were unable to accept that is a totally different matter.

Its like picking stocks. Anyone can have a theory about why a given investment is going to make them tons of money. When it does not work out there are always excuses. Being correct is what counts.

No... I wanted accountability and full disclosure. I am not willing the ridiculous premise Iraq's tried to present that somehow they permitted thousands of WMD's to go "unaccounted" for..

We learned a long time ago in jurisprudence, that the burden of proof rests on the accuser, not the accused. When we deviate from that, for whatever reasons, we lead ourselves into trouble. Iraq is another stellar example of this.

Iraq's regime was FASTIDIOUS about keeping records. And I reject the premise they didn't know who had what, where.

They had to be, because the entire regime was corrupt and the only way to keep dishonest people honest is to make them account for everything. Remember, this is what caused Al Capone's downfall.. his accountant keeping records so that Capone could be assured that his lesser thieves and rivals weren't stealing from his smuggling operations. It was no different with Saddam..


That is not what I recall after all was said and done. There was a lot of general discussion that Saddams top people simply covered their asses and lied on everything so Saddam stayed happy.