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To: neolib who wrote (182974)3/5/2006 9:24:13 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<you might want to comment on how corporate American has been handling, in stellar market efficient manner, their own pension liabilities. >

Don't ask me to pretend that corporate America or corporate anywhere is efficient in absolute terms. Most of them should be bankrupt, and will be after a couple more decades of competition, just as happened in the last couple of decades of competition.

USA Corporations are just less-bad than governments, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement of how great they are. They are a lot less bad than governments, but there is enormous room for improvement and unless they improve, they will be beaten by competitors around the world.

There are swarms of competitors around the world and there's no law of nature which says GM has to remain pre-eminent, nor that their huge pension liabilities need ever be paid. Major paradigm shift happens. And has happened.

<<I suppose you are unaware of the extensive research showing how they are geneticly different. >>

<Link please>

Not all data has a link. Just because there isn't a link, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Any day now I'm going to get around to uploading my extensive research on government spiv DNA. I just have a few more coils of DNA to unwind and classify in their appropriate spiv categories. I'll have to buy one of those swanky Affymetrix devices and get a copy of the human genome [and maybe some training on exactly what a gene is]. But it's pretty obvious.

Just as you meet people and you can see that they are from such and such a family, you can meet government employees and almost pick their grade level. Their movements are slow and deliberate, making few waves, with their behind well-covered. They respond quickly to tea bells and 5pm, like Pavlov's dogs.

<My parents worked for government, and non-profits all their lives. I've worked for corporations and I've been self-employed as well. You think my genes maybe changed when I changed my type of employment?>

You are obviously a white person as people who understand statistics better [Asian-Americans and Ashkenazis] wouldn't make that mistake. Especially after having been lectured about it a few posts ago. To belabour the point again, the fact that you are white doesn't necessarily mean you'll get melanoma. Plenty of white people don't. The fact that white people are much less intelligent than Ashkenazis doesn't mean you can't find smart white people and dumb Ashkenazi. Nor does the fact that a lot of Ashkenazis are white change that, though it would confuse a lot of white people, though not so many Ashkenazis.

<Unregulated capitalism allows criminals to flourish. There is plenty of historical evidence. >

Regulated socialism does too. So does anarchy. So does dictatorship. Japan seems to have few criminals per capita. Yet they are quite capitalist. Even very capitalist. You seem to think that capitalism causes criminality. Not so.

Oh, I see what you mean by Enron and the <hairbrained scheme, > sic. In fact, the harebrained scheme was the scheme come up with by the electricity supply deregulators who completely hashed it. They didn't create a free market at all. Caxton Rhodes was a Sier in 1996 who was involved in the deregulation scheme and we had discussions about it. It was daft as are all government schemes.

The problem wasn't what Enron did in response [leaving aside any criminal things they might have done which is a separate issue]. It was the rules in which Enron had to work.

If companies could charge what the market would bear, there wouldn't have been a shortage. But no, governments wanted to do a half-baked deregulation. They wanted to pretend that prices could stay "reasonable" when there's a shortage.

There is an amazing new concept called supply and demand, which are balanced by price. Governments don't like it and neither to most people who want things preferably free, or if not free, then cheap. They attack anyone who makes a lot of money.

<So make a list and sort it showing individual gain from working in public vs. private sector jobs. >

Ah, I see the misunderstanding there. The government spivs don't necessarily get rich, though the hangers-on often do, who harvest the stupid ideas that the government spivs come up with. The spivs are geneticly incapable of making loads of money in the private sector, or even functioning in it, which is why they gravitate to sinecures in government. Well, they can function, but not particularly well. Even if they are good and get into government by mistake, they are hog-tied by all surrounding them. Which happens in the corporate world too of course, but not as badly.

One government spiv can do quarter the useful work of a private business worker, but get only slightly more pay. They certainly won't feel rich. They'll even have a feeling of being underpaid and will even threaten to "go private" which of course they won't do other than in exceptional circumstances. They want spivdom AND money.

<at least they churn out numerous papers claiming that they are not in fact monopolies.>

The definition depends entirely on defining the monopoly tightly enough. MSFT, the current favourite "monopoly" has no monopoly on software, let alone writing letters. But they do have a monopoly on their particular operating system. Just as Toyota has a monopoly on Toyotas. But they don't have a monopoly on getting from A to B. One can even walk. Or go by bus.

<Several times environmental groups have been the high bidders on smallish stands of old growth up for auction by the US Forest Service. Boy does corporate america howl when that happens!>

Most people want things free and corporates are as greedy as government spivs. They'll whine and wail that they don't get given public property for their private benefit. They just need to be told to get lost and get a real job.

They'll whine and wail that they don't get given another company's property cheap enough too, such as QUALCOMM's intellectual property. Koreans whine like a fleet of 747s over royalties. Others are complaining to the European politicians.

Mqurice



To: neolib who wrote (182974)3/5/2006 10:32:00 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 281500
 
I'd like to see a private company that would deliver a hard copy letter from San Diego to Bangor, Maine for 39 cents or less. I think if one could and make a profit, they would. The USPS is a treasure and a bargain.