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To: Snowshoe who wrote (4710)	3/7/2006 8:49:26 PM
From: Seeker of Truth	Respond to of 219165

Snowshoe, I thought this question is tremendously important but now I'm changing my mind. Suppose that alcohol costs us more in dollars and in energy than an oil derived fuel. If we are willing to make up the energy deficiency in the transportation process with the use of solar energy, e.g. water power, wind power, a certain part of food, (the rest of the food cost is spent in fertilizer, plowing, insecticide,tools etc.),etc. then we still won't need oil. Transportation will be more expensive but countries like US and Britain could save a lot of military costs used in chasing "control" over oil. Transportation would be more expensive but science is steadily making everything else cheaper and cheaper. It's kind of a political question. For example forcing the Israelis to leave Palestine and go to calmer countries would save enormous amounts of global energy.

To: Snowshoe who wrote (4710)	3/8/2006 3:58:09 AM
From: Crabbe	Respond to of 219165

On fuel cells viability. Ballard Closes Second Fuel-Cell Fork Lift Deal 8 September 2005 General Hydrogen’s Class 1 Fork Lift Ballard Power Systems has closed a deal with General Hydrogen (Canada) for more than 100 Mark9 SSL fuel cell stacks, ranging in power output from 4.8 kW to 21.1 kW, for integration into General Hydrogen’s forklift power units. These Class 1 fuel cell forklifts are going into early commercial sale. This is Ballard’s second contract recently for lift truck fuel cells. In August, Ballard signed an agreement to provide 27 4.8-kW fuel cell stacks to Cellex Power for integration into its power units destined for trials in electric lift trucks. (Earlier post.) Ballard expects to begin unit deliveries to General Hydrogen in the fourth quarter of 2005. The Supply Agreement runs through the fourth quarter of 2006. Following anticipated commercial sales in 2006, Ballard and General Hydrogen have the option to negotiate a follow-on supply agreement to support higher volumes in 2007 and beyond. General Hydrogen was founded in 1999 by Geoffrey Ballard and Paul Howard, themselves founders of Ballard Power Systems, and Michael Routtenberg, founder of Xillix Technologies, a developer of cancer diagnostic imaging systems. The fuel cells in this application are justified because of the quick turn around when refueling vs. recharging. Check out ballard.com r