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To: skinowski who wrote (183389)	3/12/2006 10:15:24 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 281500

SOROS will direct his longtime stooge Carla del Ponte whom to "try" next.

To: skinowski who wrote (183389)	3/12/2006 10:15:44 AM
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Community Bans Woman's 'Support Our Troops' Sign (Tampa, Florida) Local 6 (Florida) ^ \| March 10, 2006 A community association board in Tampa, Fla., voted Thursday night to ban a 'Support Our Troops' sign posted by a solider's wife, according to a report. "I feel that your home is where your heart is and right now my husband is in Iraq and that's where my heart is so I want to show everyone that I support what he is doing," Stacy Kelley said. Stacy Kelly, whose husband David is in Iraq with the U.S. Army, recently posted a sign in her yard to support him. "I feel that your home is where your heart is and right now my husband is in Iraq and that's where my heart is, so I want to show everyone that I support what he is doing," Kelley said. The Westchase Homeowner's Association asked Kelley to remove the sign because it violated association policy. Association President Daryl Manning said the rules about signs are in place to keep the community clean and keep the peace. "The concern that we have is what if the neighbor across the street does not support the troops or is against the administration and starts putting up those types of signs," Manning said. "So, here we have a war of the signs and we definitely do not want to get into that." Thursday night, the seven association board members voted that the sign would have to come down. Board members proposed placing the sign to the front of the swim and tennis center but Kelley reportedly refused the compromise, according to a St. Petersburg Times report. Stacy faces fines of $100 a day for up to 10 days for the association rules violation. There was no word on what Kelley planned to do.

To: skinowski who wrote (183389)	3/12/2006 3:53:41 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<He will be remembered forever as he was shredding his accusers. And, by dying in such a neat and timely manner - whether assisted or not - he cast a cloud of doubt over his jailers, for eternity. Very impressive, really....> The "poisoning" might have been strategic. Maybe his lawyer slipped him some poison so he could be "murdered" by his prosecutors or unknown agents. He was so ill anyway that maybe he thought his days were numbered, the prosecution would just declare him guilty anyway, so he might as well beat them to the punch and taint them forever. Or, maybe he was plain murdered by vengeful people, who wanted him dead. There must have been a LOT of them. The trial was absurd and obviously a profit-making scam for the lawyers and judges. A trial could have been conducted in a week, as with any other person in garden-variety prosecutions around the world. They could have picked an obviously egregious example and been done with it. They didn't need to find every last crime. One would be bad enough. It doesn't take 4 years to pick over the bones of a few minutes of judgment he might or might not have made in a particular decision on whether to commit some crime or not. Anyway, such "crimes" as Saddam and he and King George II or Tony Blair commit are much the same. Political use of military power to kill those who oppose their power. It's as old as the hills. The USA nuked hundreds of thousands of women and children in Hiroshima to defeat those who opposed them. Britain leveled cities full of people. Saddam gassed one village once and people go hysterical. He was doing the same as the others - fighting for power and obliterating anyone and any town who got in his way or dared to oppose him. The problem is the dog eat dog rules and the lack of a decent constitution for a United Nations worthy of the name. We should expect more of the same. Iran is lining up. China too over Taiwan. Mqurice

To: skinowski who wrote (183389)	3/13/2006 10:34:36 AM
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Heart failure blamed but former Serb leader said doctors were killing him Letter to Russian foreign minister shows he felt he was being given wrong drugs Ian Traynor, central Europe correspondent Monday March 13, 2006 The Guardian guardian.co.uk The death of Slobodan Milosevic was shrouded in mystery and deepening controversy last night as Dutch pathologists examined his corpse and it emerged that he had claimed he was being slowly killed by doctors. Milosevic's body was removed from the detention centre at the war crimes tribunal in The Hague to the Netherlands forensic institute for a postmortem examination and toxicological testing. Last night a preliminary postmortem report said that he had died of heart failure. His remains were to be released to his family today. Yesterday the 64-year-old former Serbian and Yugoslav president's lawyer revealedsix-page letter - dated last Friday, 24 hours before his death - that Milosevic wrote to the Russian government alleging he was being deliberately administered the wrong drugs for his illnesses. "Persons that are giving me the drug for the treatment of leprosy surely cannot be treating me. Especially those persons against whom I have defended my country in the war and who also have an interest in silencing me can likewise not be treating me," Milosevic said in a handwritten letter to the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov. Milosevic had a long history of heart disease, hypertension and high blood pressure. He was also found to be ignoring Dutch medical advice while on trial for the past four years and to be taking drugs other than those prescribed. His family has a history of suicide; his parents and a favourite uncle killed themselves. Carla Del Ponte, chief prosecutor in The Hague, said yesterday that Milosevic, found dead in his cell on Saturday morning, might have killed himself. "According to our valuations, [the trial] would have ended with a verdict requesting he be shut away for life. Perhaps he wanted to avoid all that," Ms Del Ponte told the Italian paper, la Repubblica. But tribunal sources said the most likely explanation for his death was natural causes. While Milosevic claimed in his letter that he was being deliberately administered the wrong medicine, he also has a record of taking unprescribed drugs and refusing treatment advised by his Dutch doctors. Eighteen months ago, during courtroom wrangles over whether he was fit enough to stand trial on 66 counts of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity in former Yugoslavia in the 1990s, the judges in the case ordered two independent medical examinations. They found that Milosevic was occasionally refusing to take the drugs prescribed for his condition, and taking other drugs he said he got from his "Serbian doctor". Last November, Milosevic staged an hour-long harangue in the court, arguing that the Del Ponte prosecution team was "the source of his ill-health" and that he was being "exposed to torture." He demanded that he be released to receive medical treatment in Russia where his wife and son live. The court denied the request last month, ruling that medical treatment in the Netherlands was quite adequate. Ever since the November outburst, Mirko Klarin, a long-time observer of the trials in The Hague, has argued that Milosevic had no intention of seeing the trial through to its conclusion, which was expected in a few months. "This is his final revenge on the tribunal," said Mr Klarin. Serbian nationalists and Milosevic loyalists seized on the mystery to claim Milosevic was poisoned, though it is not clear who had anything to gain from his death. Last night a spokeswoman for the war crimes tribunal, Alexandra Milenov, said the postmortem revealed Milosevic had been suffering from two heart conditions. She did not name the conditions, but said the doctors determined they might have caused the heart attack. She also said toxicological tests were still to be carried out. Asked if poisoning could have caused the heart attack, Ms Milenov said it was too early to draw conclusions. She said that the inquiry into Milosevic's death, ordered by tribunal president Fausto Pocar, was continuing. "I think we should also wait for that until we come to any final conclusions," she said, adding that the final report was expected to be released in a matter of days.

To: skinowski who wrote (183389)	3/13/2006 9:51:10 PM
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Norway: Krekar claims Islam will win aftenposten. ^ \| 03/13/06 \| aftenposten. Norway's most controversial refugee, Mullah Krekar, told an Oslo newspaper on Monday that there's a war going on between "the West" and Islam. He said he's sure that Islam will win, and he also had praise for suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. "We're the ones who will change you," Krekar told Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet in his first interview since an uproar broke out over cartoons deemed offensive to Muslims. "Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes," Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children. "By 2050, 30 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim." He claimed that "our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours." He loosely defined "western thinking" as formed by the values held by leaders of western or non-islamic nations. Its "materialism, egoism and wildness" has altered Christianity, he claimed. Krekar, who's been supported by the Norwegian government since arriving as a refugee from northern Iraq in the early 1990s, now faces deportation after violating the terms of his refugee status and being deemed a threat to national security. Bin Laden 'a good man' Krekar told Dagbladet that he favours Islamic rule where political and religious leaders are one and the same. One such leader he respects, he said, is Osama bin Laden. "Osama bin Laden is a good person," Krekar said. He claimed Osama bin Laden is considered a terrorist simply because he lacks his own state. "Those who say Osama bin Laden is a terrorist are themselves killing our women and children," Krekar said. Attempts to "spread democracy," he claimed, are merely a ruse to wage war against Islam, adding that "the West destroyed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan" because "it feared the Islamic state."