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To: sea_urchin who wrote (10338)3/12/2006 7:43:17 PM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
Israel elections remind me in many ways of the antebellum South where candidates would often compete by trying to "out-nigger" each other.

Many Jews have become Nazi style barbarians under Zionist leadership IMHO.

I've killed more Arabs than anyone'
Ami Ayalon, who is running on Labor ticket in upcoming elections, tells Sunday Times ‘I killed many Arabs, probably more than Hamas fighters killed Jews, and more than anybody else, but all in order to secure Israeli lives’; adds that ‘seventy percent of those who voted for Hamas were not Hamas believers but voted against the corruption in the Palestinian Authority
Ynet

Former Shin Bet Chief Ami Ayalon said in a recent interview with the London-based Sunday Times “I killed many Arabs, probably more than Hamas fighters killed Jews, and more than anybody else, but all in order to secure Israeli lives.�
 
Ayalon, who is running on the Labor party ticket in the upcoming general elections, said he wants a comprehensive peace settlement with the Palestinians even under a Hamas leadership.

 
“I’d be willing to negotiate with Hamas if the organization accepts the idea of a two-state solution,� the Times quoted him as saying.
 
Ayalon told the newspaper that he believes Israel should establish an “axis of pragmatism� with the regional countries that have full diplomatic relations with Israel — Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey.
“This is the whole idea — to create this pragmatic axis which will be supported by the European Union and the international community,� he said.
 
‘Abbas is weak’
 
“Seventy percent of those who voted for Hamas were not Hamas believers but voted against the corruption in the Palestinian Authority,� he said. “If we establish this axis it will break Hamas and we will see the pragmatist forces among the Palestinians.�
 
Referring to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, Ayalon said “I like the music of Abbas, his words, but not his actions. I think he is a weak leader.
 
“He’s unable to disarm Hamas and Islamic Jihad.�

 
As to the future of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Ayalon said “When it comes to his best advice on the Palestine question, however, he admitted it was a family affair. “If I learnt something about the conflict with the Palestinians, it is what my wife understood 30 years ago and tried in vain to teach me: Jews will only be safe when Palestinians have hope.�
 
Attila Somfalvi contributed to the report
 

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To: sea_urchin who wrote (10338)3/12/2006 9:15:39 PM
From: Jamey  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 22250
 
That viewpoint does not reflect the mainstream opinion of Orthodoxy. Most Orthodox Jews support the existence of the state of Israel as a homeland, even though it is not the theological state of Israel that will be brought about by the messiah.

Jewish settlers were buying land from the Turks prior to 1900 and much of the land bought from Arabs was nothing but swamps and marshes sold at highly inflated prices.

God is a Sovereign entity that has designed the course of the heavens right down to the smallest molecule and it's course and position of the atom in all living matter. Therefore the Jew's right to live in their homeland has been allowed by God. Otherwise they would not be there.

They have taken these marshes and deserts and today they truly reflect God's promise to them as possessing a land of "milk and honey" by their own efforts and intelligence.

To deny these people something that they deservedly own and have created out of arid and uninhabitable lands is indeed a miracle from God to them. Also the Arab nations in vastly superior numbers have never claimed any victory from them in spite of the fact they were outnumbered. Another miracle from God, imo. Anyone who actually thinks that they should be once again displaced is suspect of anti semitism in my thinking.

Lev 20:
23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
24 But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people.

Santi


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