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To: Brumar89 who wrote (55739)3/15/2006 9:33:49 PM
From: Orcastraiter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Perhaps Clinton was thinking that Saddam provided a balance to Iran. Removing him may not...in the short term be a good thing, especially since he was contained.

How did we get rid of the former Soviet Union? No war was needed. Sometimes it's better to lead the horse with a carrot rather than with a stick. To the untrained observer, both methods seems to work. In the case of using the stick you always have the worry of the horse rearing up. In the case of the carrot, you have to watch out that the horse doesn't bite the hand that feeds it.

Both strategies have pitfalls. But clearly the war solution is one that should be left for a last resort when danger is imminent. Clearly there was no need to rush to war. Far more could have been done to help the Iraqi people. Think carrot instead of stick...and you'll answer for yourself the many ways how.

Orca



To: Brumar89 who wrote (55739)3/15/2006 10:15:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
The Clinton adm knew (as did the senior Bush adm) that if you got rid of Saddam and didn't provide an alternative, you would have a huge problem on your hands - something that the lying nitwit now sitting in the WH didn't understand.

The alternative was to box Saddam and render him a toothless tiger. And both adms did exactly that. It was working very well, until the village idiot from Crawford, Texas took over.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (55739)3/16/2006 12:30:28 AM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
There were many ways to get rid of Saddam besides invading and occupying a country the size of Texas without a post-invasion plan and with few allies helping us.

Waiting was also definitely an option. Kerry said at the time that Bush should wait until fall, keep inspecting for WMD and keeping up the diplomatic pressure, planning and coalition building. He was right. Bush jumped the gun and went in without a plan. And now we know from COBRA 2 that Cheney, Rumsfield and Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army without even telling the Joint Chiefs or Powell. The Joint Chiefs were horrified when they found out. Bush is responsible because he let Cheney, Rummy and Brmer make the decisions. Terrible decisions every one of them.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (55739)3/16/2006 10:27:30 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 93284
 
What other ways could Saddam been gotten rid of?

The smart question is not which alternative way to eliminate Saddam was better, but whether getting rid of Saddam was worth the chaos that followed. The smart move would have been to leave him contained and weak and a harmless saber rattler like Castro.

TP