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To: michael97123 who wrote (183677)	3/17/2006 12:17:14 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

There is very little difference between Sylvestor and Hawkmoon in terms of their placement on the extremes of opposite ends of the ideological bell curve. Hawk tries to tone down his bitter hatred of all things non-Bush a little better than Sylvestor on the opposite end but if you read them closely, it's there. And Michael, despite your assertion that "None of this was inevitable," it was all inevitable. The problems in Iraq are problems that would have raised their deadly heads and struck sooner or later no matter how many troops we'd sent in and no matter how efficiently we'd "governed" the newly defeated country. The original premises were fatally flawed...still are. Hey, if you disagree then tell me honestly how you, as a Sunni or a Kurd in a unified, democratically run Iraq would welcome rule by a bunch of religiously grounded, largely ignorant Shiites who elected leaders with views compatible with their own to run the country? Trust the police? Trust the military? Feel comfortable to worship in ways that are deemed heretic by the majority? Think you'll get your fair share of power, justice, economic benefit, etc.? Wonder if you'll get hauled away, tortured and shot in the head some night? Worry about your daughters getting raped and beaten for their Kurdish or Sunni dress or ways? You CANNOT have a fair, just and functioning democracy when a majority of the voting public is neither fair, tolerant nor just. Their leaders will reflect their failings and those who are "not us" will pay with their lives, their freedoms and their wallets. Pollyanna never tried to govern the Middle East. Don't be a sap and fall for the "we were right but the Rumsfeld blew it" apologists trying to resurrect their shaky intellectual reputations. That only sets the stage for the next Vietnam..., excuse me, Iraq. Ed