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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56040)	3/18/2006 4:16:05 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

Befriending Saddam was the approach taken by Rumsfeld under Reagan. That's not what I'd recommend at all. Persuasion may come in many forms. The sanctions were a form of persuasion, but it was not effective and hurt many of the wrong people. The invasion and occupation is a form of persuasion, but it too was not effective, as we can clearly see now, and hurt many of the wrong people. When ever persuasion includes "trying to take advantage of a people" it's not going to work, especially if you're trying to avoid death and destruction. If you don't mind the result of death and destruction, then war is a great solution. And if death and destruction is your goal, then there is no better solution. The kind of persuasion I'm talking about is one that has at the forefront of every action...fairness. For example...you want to watch football on the TV. Your wife wants to watch figure skating. You can't afford a second tv. What do you do? Here's some methods of persuasion: 1. Punch your wife in the face and tell her to eff her damn self...I'm watching football. 2. Tell your wife that if she doesn't let you watch the game you're going to spend her beauty shop money on beer. 3. Offer to take your wife to her favorite restaurant if she lets you watch the game. 4. Offer to watch figure skating this time, if she lets you watch the game next week. These options offer increasing compromise and fairness as you go down the list. As you go to increasing compromise you also increase the chances of a successful partnership. What governs the choice of how one goes about persuading the other party should be guided by trying to achieve fairness for all parties. The choices that Bush has made, preemptive war and torture, guarantees that we will see another 9-11. Perhaps that too is part of his master plan. Orca

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56040)	3/18/2006 5:08:47 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Respond to of 93284

Saddam was a paper tiger. He was emasculated beyond any hope of recovery. Bush senior knew that it was better to leave Saddam in control of Iraq, as long as Saddam was not powerful enough to threaten anybody else in the region, let alone the US and the West. But Dumbya thought he knew best and got us screwed. Dumbya's "Iraq mission is a failure" (btw, these words are from a "liberal" called William Buckley :-) )

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56040)	3/19/2006 12:28:35 PM
From: paret	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Sarandon to Play Cindy Sheehan in Movie SFGate/via Drudge ^ \| 3-19-06 \| Vicki Haddock The sun is rising over a house in the Berkeley Hills, and in its modest studio apartment, America's most compelling anti-war activist is making her bed, apologizing for the clutter and running late. Cindy Sheehan was up much of the previous night while emergency room doctors treated her daughter for a painful cyst, but sleeping in is out of the question. Soon a car will whisk her off to a Canadian TV interview, to be followed by a local TV interview, and finally, fixing spaghetti for her three adult children in Vacaville -- her home before the death of her soldier son Casey and the political trajectory of her anguish propelled her to divorce, to estrangement from friends, and to a frenetic campaign to end U.S. military involvement in Iraq. [Listen to a podcast about Cindy Sheehan] And where is "home" to her now? She pauses and sighs, sinking into the window seat and pulling a quilt up to her chin. "Nowhere, really ... ." She's averaging just two days per month here. The next morning she will fly off again, the surreal star of what is -- depending largely on one's political perspective -- either an epic tragedy or a farce. After stops for protests in New Orleans and Washington, D.C., she will breakfast in Manhattan with actress Susan Sarandon, who is set to portray her in a biopic movie. A crew will film Sheehan for a weekly reality series on the Sundance Channel. Her letters to President Bush inspired "Peace Mom," a one-woman monologue show in London. A memoir is due to her publisher April 1. -snip- E-mail Vicki Haddock at vhaddock@sfchronicle.com. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...