To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (56118 ) 3/19/2006 1:51:50 PM From: Orcastraiter Respond to of 93284 I don't think that Cheney was lying. To him and according to the Bush plan, every deadline has been met. Especially the important ones, like the installation of the new government, elections and such. But like most plans, Bush's plan for Iraq is multi-layered. There is no "one objective" for the war. It's been sold as a single objective war since the beginning. Remember the WMD? Then remember removing Saddam? Remember bringing democracy to Iraq? Remember how the war was rolled in to a larger "war on terror" which has now morphed into the "long war"? The long war? I thought this was going to be a short war. I'm thinking back to the days of Reagan, and his policy of pitting the Iraqis against the Iranians. He had a successful game going there, arming and assisting both sides of the conflict. To what end? Now we step into Iraq...but to what end? It's never been explained by Bush. Except in this trite and ever changing manner which has now morphed into the long war. For a long war you need military bases. We got them. A dozen of them or more, which are probably going to have US soldiers manning them for decades...hence the reason for calling it the long war. What I do hear now...is that when the Iraqi Army stands up...we will stand down. That's very interesting indeed. Were waiting for Iraqis to stand up? I looked at the budget numbers for the Iraq War. When you look at the funds spent on the Iraqi Army, it's right up there with the spending on the electrical infrastructure in Iraq. In fact it was a little less than that. How's the electricity output in Iraq doing these days? Ok then, it seems like it might be a while until the Iraqis are capable of standing up. I hear they have some new pick up trucks. While the Iraqis are getting ready to stand up, there's a civil war brewing. So who is going to be ready to put down a civil war? The only army capable of doing anything is the US. I don't see Bush sending troops into quell a Civil War. How will he roll that role into the definition of the long war? Perhaps this civil war has been going on for decades...if not centuries. We could probably put down a civil war, but that would take a doubling of the number of troops and police in Iraq. There's no stomach for that politically in the US. Even the troops see no point in being there anymore. That leaves us two other options. Hunker down in the military bases and let the civil war rage on, or leave Iraq and let the civil war rage on. Perhaps it's part of the original Reaganesc plan...let to the two sides kill one another. The civil war is a Shia Sunni war, same as the Iraq - Iran war was. Only this time the battle lines have moved inside Iraq. I think I know what option Bush will take. We're going to be hunkered down in Iraq at least until January 2009. Let the Iraqis wear themselves out. Then pick up the pieces later. Saddam sees that happening, and has called for unity from his jail cell and the court room. Don't kill each other...get the Americans he cried. On this third anniversary of a war that never should have happened in the first place, we have nothing to celebrate. Orca