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To: gold$10k who wrote (1326)	3/20/2006 8:55:42 AM
From: J.B.C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50005

I no longer watch 60 Minutes as it is now just a haven for Left wing journalist with an agenda of biased reporting, however, I did go read the transcript of the interview after reading your post. I wonder, does James Hansen the subject of the report have the opinion that human activity has caused the global warming currently happening on Mars? Let me know what you think? I guess this is a political thread now, no longer an investment thread. Jim

To: gold$10k who wrote (1326)	3/20/2006 9:15:54 AM
From: hubris33	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50005

What, you haven't figured out that 60 Minutes has really changed its name to "Bash Bush?" <ggg> Don't know how a nice piece got in there at the end. lol! The thing I found amazing about the global warming issue was that in spite of sounding the alarm, they suggested NO solutions! It is great to be for a concept, but if it is serious then let's talk turkey about solutions: ban SUVs and limit cars to one per household, mandate replacement of coal, natural gas and oil fired power plants with nuclear plants and tax living space over 500 square foot per person as wasteful from a heating perspective. Without some kind of real discussion of the requisite sacrifices needed to stop our contribution to the global greenhouse gas issue one is left with a piece that just made us feel bad about being Americans and prosperous. After all real solutions need to be global solutions. Can you tell me that China and India are doing their part to curb greenhouse gases? Then again, on other shows I have heard experts say that it is too late now anyway, little man can do with present technology to reverse the situation quickly as it the time needed to act is too short, the problem is too vast and there is no technology to scrub the atomosphere. But if you want an interesting example of 'man' trying to effect climate change, one should go look at the government of the United Arab Emirates! They have gone out into the desert and planted thousands of tree, kept alive by drip irrigation as a process designed to change the heat/moisture relationships and try to effect a micro-climate change! Whodudathunkit? <ggg> H3

To: gold$10k who wrote (1326)	3/20/2006 9:56:42 AM
From: J.B.C.	Respond to of 50005

Here's some more on "global warming", I guess we got it right, now: statements from the 1970’s… “Suppose we assume, as did weather scientists interviewed by writer Nigel Calder, that the chances of continued cooling and of an Ice Age dawning within a century are one in ten, odds likened by one scientist to Russian roulette. The odds are in our favor, but consider the stakes being wagered: if the cooling continues, we can reasonably calculate that potentially two billion people could starve to death or die of other symptoms of chronic malnutrition by the year 2050. Potentially, we could all die if global famines and embargos on carce resources, both caused by the cooling, lead to a world war. We simply cannot afford to gamble against this possibility by ignoring it. We cannot risk inaction. Those scientists who say we should ignore the evidence and the theories suggesting Earth is entering a period of climaticinstability are acting irresponsibly. The indications that our climate can soon change for the worse are too strong to be reasonably ignored.” —Lowell Ponte in “The Cooling”, 1976 “In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” —Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day 1970 “The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.” —Reid Bryson, “Global Ecology; Readings towards a rational strategy for Man”, 1971 Newsweek April 28, 1975 The Cooling World There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production– with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now… …Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve…