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To: combjelly who wrote (280957)	3/20/2006 2:42:42 PM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 1572885

RE: "And can they ever apply pressure. It is always the first thing out of their mouths." You are absolutely correct. They don't want to deal with the extra stress of handling a talented child. The bad ones would rather have an easy day at work and prefer if their students were sleepy like sheep. It's the talented teacher that gets excited to have a talented child in her or his class. RE: "If you don't comply, they move your kid to the special education classes" Sure, and of course that's not much of an option to the parent, so they are left with no choice whatsoever. And is there any law to protect the child? Probably not. Probably better to move to a new school district where teachers like to work with smart children. RE: "And then that leads to all sort of social issues in school for the child. And if they were acting up before because of boredom, well..." It would never occur to them the problem might be the teacher's lack of aptitude. Btw, when I was a kid, the only time I remember getting in trouble was when I started tapping my right foot. Teacher scoldingly asked me what I was doing and I said I was fidgety. She told me to stop it, so I did. But 10 minutes later I started moving my right foot again and she stopped the class and demanded to know why I was so fidgety. I said, "because we weren't allowed to have recess at all today since it rained." She looks outside, sees that the rain has cleared, and says, "okay everyone, outside to play for 10 minutes!" She was a gem - and when we got back into class, of course I wasn't fidgety anymore. Do teachers even have that type of control today, where they can let a class outside for 10 minutes if they've been couped up all day? Btw, it was a good thing I was a "cute, little girl", because if I had been a boy, the school probably would have sent me to the principals office and it would have been downhill from there. Nowadays it's worse, they put boys on drugs if they're active & smart. And then we wonder why this country no longer fosters talent? I think there should be a law against giving children these types of drugs, unless there are some hurdles they have to go through to get it under extraordinarily situations. I wonder how these kids will turn out later in life? When they are children, they are suppose to be learning healthy ways of dealing with themselves, but using a drug will disable that learning process, which means they are never given the opportunity to learn to manage themselves properly. That sounds unhealthy. In my high school, those kids that took illegal drugs seemed to be placed onto an eternal path of poor opportunity because the drug replaced their opportunity to learn/grow/deal with things, which made them even further behind. Regards, Amy J

To: combjelly who wrote (280957)	3/21/2006 4:23:46 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572885

"There are some teachers that are seeking an easy way out (not the good ones, of course), so they put pressure on the parents to put their kids onto something" And can they ever apply pressure. It is always the first thing out of their mouths. If you don't comply, they move your kid to the special education classes. And then that leads to all sort of social issues in school for the child. And if they were acting up before because of boredom, well... Really? Its that bad in TX? I don't get the sense that's true here but I could be very wrong.....I mean in terms of encouraging medication. However, they do see a problem......esp. with the boys....that they think boys have an adjustment problem here.....which I've discussed before. What researchers are finding now is that boys act up not necessarily because they are bored but because of the way they are hard wired.....it makes them restless and they have a need to be physical. I remember as a kid it took all my discipline to sit still in class and I was a good student. Even with that, I would sometimes end up in the hall with the teacher asking me "why can't a smart boy like you get his act together". That attitude of teachers seems to have gotten worse since I was a kid and I think its making things worse. ted