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To: Dan B. who wrote (74696)3/22/2006 4:18:02 PM
From: RichnorthRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 81568
 
Protests accross the globe mark Iraq war anniversary
3/19/2006 8:00:00 PM GMT

Worldwide anti-war protests marking the third anniversary of Iraq war continued for the second day on Sunday.

Thousands of people took to the streets in various countries around the world on Sunday demanding the withdrawal of U.S. and foreign troops from Iraq.

Tens of thousands of protesters, from hurricane-ravaged Louisiana to Australia, chanting "Stop the War" and calling for the withdrawal of occupying forces from the war-ravaged country, crowded the streets Sunday expressing their opposition to the U.S.-led invasion and the bloodshed and turmoil it has caused in and around Iraq.

200 war veterans, hurricane survivors and demonstrators gathered at the Chalmette National Cemetery protesting Iraq war that has tarnished the U.S. image worldwide.

In Seoul, South Korea, which has the third-largest contingent of foreign troops in Iraq after the U.S. and UK, up to 2,000 demonstrators were expected to participate in anti-war demonstrations.

And in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, a huge rally was set to take place outside the U.S. Embassy.

“This is aimed at calling for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq, withdrawal of South Korean troops and an end to South Korea-U.S. war coalition,” said Kim Kwang-il, one of the protest organisers in Seoul.

“We’re also going to denounce recent U.S. moves to attack Iran.”

"We attacked a country who never did anything to us," said Philadelphia resident Al Zappala, who lost her 30-year-old son in Iraq in 2004.

In the British capital, 15,000 people took part in a massive anti-war rally Saturday from Parliament and Big Ben to Trafalgar Square.

Also anti-war protesters took to the streets in Japan, with about 800 demonstrators chanting "No war! Stop the war!" and banging drums as they marched through downtown Tokyo toward the U.S. Embassy.

"The Iraq war was President Bush's big mistake and the whole world is against him," said organizer Ayako Nishimura. "Iraq must decide its own affairs."

In Chalmette, former Florida National Guard Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia, a conscientious objector from Miami Beach, Fla., who was court-martialed and jailed for desertion, joined other anti-war rallies.

"I joined the military because it seemed to offer stability and camaraderie," he said. "No soldier signs up for a war for oil."

Activist Cindy Sheehan, who led a major anti-war movement last summer, including a month-long protest outside President Bush's Texas ranch, joined the Gulf Coast marchers in Mississippi on Friday.

"Katrina only happened because of the incompetence and callousness of the (Bush) administration, just as we've seen in Iraq," Sheehan said Sunday.

In Chicago, protests drew more than 7,000 people on Saturday, with demonstrators demanding the U.S. pull out of Iraq.

"Bush is a category 5 disaster," one sign read.

"I'm against this war, I'm against the torture," said protester Martha Conrad, 54. "We're doing this for the people of Iraq."

More protests were held in Boston, San Francisco and Pittsburgh, with more than 1,000 people packed into New York's Times Square on Saturday chanting: "Stop the U.S. war machine, from Iraq to Korea to the Philippines."

Anti-war demonstrations started across the globe Saturday protesting the U.S-led unjustified war on Iraq..

Addressing more than 1,000 people who gathered in Times Square, Wael Musfar of the Arab Muslim American Federation, said:

"We say enough hypocrisy, enough lies, our soldiers must come home now".

"I have friends in Iraq and I just want them to know that I may not be able to support them there, but I can here," said Jose Avila, 36.

UK, Basra, New York, Madrid, Rome, Sydney, Tokyo, Toronto and Dublin all staged protests Saturday, demanding the U.S. and foreign troops withdraw from the war-torn country.



To: Dan B. who wrote (74696)3/22/2006 4:18:57 PM
From: RichnorthRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 

Worldwide anti-war rallies mark Iraq war anniversary
3/18/2006 2:57:00 PM GMT

Anti-war protesters organised massive rallies across the globe Saturday protesting the U.S-led unjustified war on Iraq marking the third anniversary of the invasion.

UK, Basra, New York, Madrid, Rome, Sydney, Tokyo, Toronto and Dublin will all stage protests, demanding the U.S. and foreign troops withdraw from the war-torn country.

In Sydney, around 500 demonstrators marched chanting "End the war now and "Troops out of Iraq," and waving anti-Bush placards.

"World's No. 1 Terrorist" read some of the placards, referring to the American President. Other demonstrators held banners warning against another U.S. war in the region, this time against Iran.

"Iraq is a quagmire and has been a humanitarian disaster for the Iraqis," said Jean Parker, a member of the Australian branch of the Stop the War Coalition, one of the groups organizing the protests.

"There is no way forward without ending the occupation."

Australia has 1,300 troops in and around Iraq. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice who was on a visit to Sydney this week was heckled by campaigners, who said she had "blood on her hands."

The U.S. war in war in Iraq enters its fourth year this week, with question regarding when foreign troops will leave the devastated country becoming more pressing.

The President George W. Bush seems persistent “not to cut and run”, insisting that any withdrawals will be based only “on the recommendations of his battlefield commanders.”

In Tokyo, 2,000 people protestors marched in a downtown park, waving signs reading "Stop the Occupation". Also a number of political figures gave out speeches during the rallies.

"The war is illegal under international law," said Takeshiko Tsukushi, a member of World Peace Now, which helped plan the rally.

"We want the immediate withdrawal of the Self Defense Forces and from Iraq along with all foreign troops."

"Murderer USA"
In Turkey, Iraq's northern neighbor and the only Muslim-majority member of the NATO military alliance, thousands of peace activists gathered in Istanbul protesting Iraq war. Other rallies were set to take place in the cities of Izmir, Trabzon and the capital, Ankara.

"Murderer USA," read a sign unfurled by a communist in Istanbul.

"USA, go home!" read others signs held by hundreds demonstrators who gathered in Kadikoy.

Diplomatic ties between the U.S. and Turkey were strained after the Turkish parliament refused to permit U.S. forces launch operations against Iraq from Turkish soil.

In Pakistan, hundreds of Islamists and human right activists held rallies chanting "Down with America".

About 300 Islamists, including several women, marched through Multan in the eastern Punjab province, chanting anti-U.S. slogans.

"We have gathered here to tell America that we want peace, not war," said Babar Man, a local Islamic leader, urging President Bush to end the devastating war in Iraq.

In the southern city of Karachi, human rights activists held other rallies condemning the U.S. invasion of invasion of Iraq.

More protests and peace rallies are organised across Europe.

London protests
Protesters also gathered Saturday in the British capital ahead of rally calling on the UK government, headed by Prime Minister Tony Blair,to withdraw British troops from Iraq.

The rally in central London, which marks the third anniversary of Iraq war, is organised by CND, Stop The War Coalition, and the Muslim Association of Britain.

A similar rally is organised to be held in Trafalgar Square after a march expected to pass the attorney general's office.

This is the first time to hold co-ordinated demonstrations in the United States, Britain and Iraq.

"We believe that a peaceful solution to the chaos caused by the illegal war in Iraq will only be possible when the occupying foreign armies have all been removed so that the Iraqi people will be free to decide on their own political future,” Lindsey German, Convenor of Stop the War Coalition, said in London.

• United in our call

"Our demonstration is one of over 200 taking place in cities and towns all over the world, including in Basra and Baghdad in Iraq. We will all be united in our call for the occupation to end immediately."

Also Kate Hudson, chairwoman of CND, said there was also "grave concern" about the threat of another war in the region, referring to Iran.

"The U.S. is making charges about a covert nuclear weapons programme in Iran without presenting any credible evidence. These charges are strikingly similar to the false accusations raised to justify the invasion of Iraq three years ago.

"The government must listen to the voices of the people, which is calling on them to bring the troops home from Iraq and to solve the Iranian issue peacefully and diplomatically."

"We will continue until we see the last general running for a helicopter on the roof of the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad," read a statement from Stop the War Alliance.



To: Dan B. who wrote (74696)3/22/2006 9:09:30 PM
From: OrcastraiterRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Now you're changing the subject from reasons to execute pre-emptive war to whether or not we should withdraw from a wrongheaded war.

Powell cautioned Bush when he said "If you break it you own it". Well we broke it and now we own it. I found myself in that 60% of people who did not want immediate withdrawal for the first two years of this war. However it's clear to me now that we cannot do anymore good for Iraq than we have so far.

Even Bush said yesterday that troops will be in Iraq as long as he is in the whitehouse. He says he's optimistic, that he has a plan, and he wouldn't put folks in harms way if he didn't think he could succeed. He's so optimistic that things will work out that it will have to be resolved on the next guy's watch? Another three years of occupation is what the president called for.

He didn't describe the plan. He didn't say what he considered success. He simply said he's gonna keep the troops in Iraq as long as he's the president.

I am convinced that if we wanted to, we could ready the Iraqi Army to do their own security in one to two years time. We are now at three years and Bush forsees at least three more years of war. This tells me that the job of readying Iraqis to take over is being given a very low priority. Just look at the budget for readying the Iraqis. It's not enough to get the job done...that is obvious looking back three years...and the president says...three more years ahead is not enough.

We should commit to preparing the Iraqis to provide their own security within one year. It's criminal that this has not been accomplished in the last three years. We should begin phased withdrawal immediately. Within 6 months 75% of the troops in Iraq should be redeployed outside Iraq. In the following 6 months the remaining 25% should be pulled out, and the Iraqi forces should be in complete command. All of this should have been accomplished by now already.

Bush and Rumsfeld have shown themselves to be completely incompetent. The war was bad policy to begin with. The Bush Iraq plan has failed to accomplish what Bush said was his goal. That is when the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down. That's Bush's talk, but he has not assigned the resources to get the job done. I hold Bush personally responsible for this mess we are in. I hold him responsible for not doing what he said he would do, which is turn it over to the Iraqis.

Orca



To: Dan B. who wrote (74696)3/23/2006 12:42:37 AM
From: American SpiritRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
So, still shilling for the stupidest war since Vietnam?
Do you have any conscience? Any prudence? Any common sense? Any concern for the fact things are getting worse, not better? And you give Bush-Cheney-Rumsfield a pass for the very war they personally created?

31% of Americans back Bush on the war now.
31% believe what Bush says.
31% say the press is to blame for reporting the truth.

31% of Americans need to be taken to the woodshed for a good whuppin'. They are ignorant bastards who have hurt their country.