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To: russwinter who wrote (56748)3/24/2006 2:01:10 PM
From: GST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
Have a safe trip -- are you stopping off in Tokyo??



To: russwinter who wrote (56748)3/25/2006 3:17:12 AM
From: shades  Respond to of 110194
 
May flights of angels guide you safely. How much was the ticket and how many stops?



To: russwinter who wrote (56748)4/2/2006 11:44:50 AM
From: Ramsey Su  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 110194
 
Hello Russ,

back from a whirlwind tour of Tokyo - Osaka trip myself and glad to read your observations from Shanghai. You have indeed kept an opened mind.

I first visited Shanghai back in 1986, taking my parents there as an retirement present. (they grew up in Shanghai) They said not much had changed since they left in 1949. In fact, it might have declined.

I last visited Shanghai two years ago. Shanghai started their rebuilding project in the early 1990s. Since then, they have built a new airport, eight jillion miles of new roads, two tunnels under the river to Pudong, converted the entire Pudong (all farmland into a new city), erected who knows how many million square feet of office and residential high rises. In contrast, San Diego has been talking about a new airport for decades and I doubted if I would see one in my lifetime.

Regarding the pollution, it will be very interesting to watch. Shanghai was named the site for the World's Fair in 2010 about the same time Beijing was awarded the 2008 Olympics. While Beijing may be the Washington of China, Shanghai is the NY city. It is going to be a matter of national pride so I suspect something will happen in the next few years. Having spent the last 36 years in Southern California, I remember the days that going to LA is like what you described about Shanghai now. It is not perfect but it is better now in spite of having a lot more cars and people. Can Shanghai do same?

Switching to Japan, now that is one amazing place. If you think Shanghai is the "largest built environment, you need to visit Tokyo. We spent a night in this district.
japan-guide.com
The train station here averages 2 million passengers a day!!!!!

Though I would find it difficult to live in a city like that again, Tokyo did renew my faith that it is possible to pack people together like sardines in a somewhat harmonious manner. May be it is because of their culture but people are very courteous and co exist admirably. Tokyo is without a doubt the cleanest city that I have ever seen of any size.

Similar to what you observed in China, the work ethics in Japan is "scary". You can see their attitude at all levels, from simple waiters to all the "salary men". It would be much easier for us to compete against them if only they will be more European. The students protesting in Paris should go visit Tokyo and rethink their future in world that await them.

Off to read the 500+ posts now.