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To: bentway who wrote (281715)	3/24/2006 8:55:39 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 1576163

Bushies Refuses To Explain Illegal Spying And What "Terrorist" Means (which mean they can and will spy on anyone they like, unless we stop them) rawstory.com

To: bentway who wrote (281715)	3/24/2006 8:55:45 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 1576163

JCP, They need the working stiff votes, but they need the employer bucks. What to do? The same thing that Dems do when trying to reconcile the union vote with the Hispanic vote. Tenchusatsu

To: bentway who wrote (281715)	3/24/2006 9:00:10 PM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1576163

re: Where should the Dems be on this? It's simple, they should strongly support limited legal immigration for those our country needs and come out HARD against illegals. Insist that employers that hire illegals raise their pay enough to attract Americans - If you've got to pay a guy 20/hr to pick fruit - that's what the job is worth. Make it a jail offense to hire illegals. Exactly, good post. When do you EVER hear about enforcement against the people that hire illegals, except on this thread?

To: bentway who wrote (281715)	3/27/2006 4:42:09 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576163

There's a HUGE split among Republicans on immigration. The working stiff Republicans see foreigners as threatening their jobs and their pay grade. The employer Republicans see actually doing anything about illegal immigration and restricting legal immigration as threatening the cheap labor they have enjoyed for years. It's a real conundrum for their leadership, so far, they do nothing. Well, this weekend sure made clear the depth of the problem. Five hundred thousand Latinos, many of whom were illegals, marched with impudence in LA, waving the Mexican flag. It was the largest march in the history of LA. Others marched in Atlanta and Wisconsin. Thanks to the GOP and Democrats sitting on the fence over the issue.......it now has become a huge problem. And imagine the reaction of American workers seeing the Mexican flag being waved. Talk about adding insult to injury. I don't think the organizers of the march understood the impact those flags would have on the American population. They need the working stiff votes, but they need the employer bucks. What to do? I wonder how many major industries still use illegals.......I think its mostly mom and pop operations. Where should the Dems be on this? It's simple, they should strongly support limited legal immigration for those our country needs and come out HARD against illegals. They can't........part of their constituency is Latino. If they had any backbone, they would but we've seen how much they lack backbone. Insist that employers that hire illegals raise their pay enough to attract Americans - If you've got to pay a guy 20/hr to pick fruit - that's what the job is worth. Make it a jail offense to hire illegals. That alone would win them millions of working stiff votes in Red states and elsewhere. I don't think you will see it.