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To: Brumar89 who wrote (428)	3/25/2006 12:20:35 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 14758

re:" And one shouldn't have to prove probable cause or something like that to a judge before hand. Also I note that select Congressional committee members of both parties were kept informed about this NSA monitoring program. Apparently none thought it was unconstitutional." Why shouldn't a President be required to get court approval for eavesdropping on a private citizen....what would be the rationale against it? Emergency situations can get the warrants after the fact, but any despot couldn't run a KGB organization. Members of the Intelligence were informed and many made their objections known in the secret closed door session. I don't, however, think they were given updates of the progress. Rockefeller sent his written objections to Bush. They were not allowed to speak out publicly because of the classified nature of the subject. They were not given a vote.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (428)	3/25/2006 11:06:05 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14758

"I think every Presidential administration since FISA was passed has maintained it doesn't restrain the President from using his powers as CIC. And rightly so." You think? Can you show something that supports that?? A judge doesn't have to see probable cause before hand. How many cases were denied warrants since 1978? And you didn't reply to my answer to you about the Senate Committee stance of the spying without warrant. Did you know one of the judges on the FISA panel resigned because of it?