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To: Lane3 who wrote (162111)3/26/2006 9:41:51 AM
From: Alan Smithee  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793846
 
The reader comments are of interest:

1. When is Longworth coming back.

Posted at 8:44PM on Mar 24th 2006 by chimpster

2. Are you gonna take that, James? :P

As for Ben Stein, you're right in many ways, but at the same time, the war in Iraq is of such omnipotent nature that I don't think it excludes it from being a topic of discussion at the Oscars simply because the Oscars is "about" movies. Why he bothered to point it out is a little pretentious, but given the politically charged nature of many of the people who were on stage at the Oscar it is a little surprising that it went without mention.

Clooney raved about Hollywood's global identity/politics, would it have been any more of a stretch for him to say something positive regarding American soldiers in Iraq? I don't think he, or anyone else, should have been required to do so, but in this day and age acknowledge the sacrifice is of such common place that its proper etiqute to say something. I'm actually surprised no one did...

Posted at 9:06PM on Mar 24th 2006 by Peter

3. Is it really necessary to disagree with Republicans about *everything*? I think this would be an issue where most people would just say: "you know, he's right. That's too bad no one honored the troops."

This was petty.

Posted at 10:49PM on Mar 24th 2006 by Scott

4. I also think Scott has a point. :
Posted at 11:32PM on Mar 24th 2006 by Peter

5. Movie news or personal soapbox?

Now, how about some movie news and no more pointless ramblings.

Posted at 2:05AM on Mar 25th 2006 by Natrino

6. Agreed. This was the most pointless post here on CINEMATICAL that I've ever read. You're taking issue with someone who, for one fleeting moment, wished the Oscars would have taken a moment to thank a bunch of men and women doing a largely thankless job? Wow. Did you really think this has anything to do with CINEMA?

The Oscars are watched by people around the world, probably by many of those same soldiers. A little moment like that could have given them a boost in morale, and it could have closed up the rift dividing America just a little bit.

I don't give a damn about Ben Stein or about George Bush. But this was indeed a petty, petty post.

Posted at 3:56AM on Mar 25th 2006 by hobojoe

7. I don't see the petty, I thought it a relevent comment.
But then again I'm one of those non-Americans watching the Oscars.

Posted at 5:46AM on Mar 25th 2006 by Ken

8. Petty? Maybe, but also amusing. I think you all are irked by James' rudeness. But rudeness or bluntness is sometimes best when pointing out stupidity.

Posted at 1:48PM on Mar 25th 2006 by Will K

9. Great commentary. Because it would be completely out of place for any sort of political commentary at the Oscars. From the hosts, the presenters and the winners; I'm glad we keep the Oscars politics free. Stupid ol' Ben Stein for trying to add politics to the Oscars.

Posted at 2:16PM on Mar 25th 2006 by MAK

10. Assuming MAK is being completely sarcastic :), yes, the Oscars have always had a political element to them, whether it's various colored ribbons celebrities adorn their clothes with, politically-tinged acceptance speeches, or even the selection of films awarded with the golden statue.

What's ironic is that a mention of thanks to the soldiers "over there" would have been fairly non-political. In virtually all the debates between Democrats and Republicans, a disclaimer is always sounded: The argument never questions support for the troops or our desire to get them back as soon and as safe as possible.

Posted at 3:34PM on Mar 25th 2006 by hobojoe

10. Assuming MAK is being completely sarcastic :), yes, the Oscars have always had a political element to them, whether it's various colored ribbons celebrities adorn their clothes with, politically-tinged acceptance speeches, or even the selection of films awarded with the golden statue.

What's ironic is that a mention of thanks to the soldiers "over there" would have been fairly non-political. In virtually all the debates between Democrats and Republicans, a disclaimer is always sounded: The argument never questions support for the troops or our desire to get them back as soon and as safe as possible.

Posted at 3:34PM on Mar 25th 2006 by hobojoe

12. *Clap clap*. Right on James!

Posted at 1:34AM on Mar 26th 2006 by Jason