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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cogito who wrote (74886)	3/27/2006 10:55:31 AM
From: Orcastraiter	Respond to of 81568

Allen, I've asked Dan why did Bush plot with Tony Blair to send a U2 plane over Iraq in order to draw fire and provide justification for the war. Of course there was no reply. George Bush considered provoking a war with Saddam Hussein's regime by flying a United States spyplane over Iraq bearing UN colours, enticing the Iraqis to take a shot at it, according to a leaked memo of a meeting between the US President and Tony Blair. The two leaders were worried by the lack of hard evidence that Saddam Hussein had broken UN resolutions, though privately they were convinced that he had. According to the memorandum, Mr Bush said: "The US was thinking of flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours. If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach." news.independent.co.uk If this preemptive war was an open and shut case, why the need for clandestine plots to draw Saddam into a conflict? Orca

To: Cogito who wrote (74886)	3/28/2006 12:03:14 AM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

I'm too tired now to respond as I would like, but Re: "Clinton didn't ever say anything to even suggest that we needed to take Saddam out before he dropped a nuclear weapon on New York." That is false. As a somewhat reasonable man indeed, he most certainly would have and DID want Saddam gone prior to that. The above illustrates a lacking in your judgement which I fear, carries over into the very process by which you form opinions. Clinton signed on in fact, and called for Saddam's ouster in '98. He was supportive of our entry into Iraq in 2003. So was John Kerry, for that matter. T'wasn't Bush who fooled these guys, they simply made the right choice at the time. Iraq was a very appropriate target to hit for the protection of America after 911. That will not be written out of history, despite your efforts. Re: "Bush spent months and months doing everything he could to convince everyone that we needed to go to war preemptively, and take Saddam out because he was such a huge threat to U.S. security. It is certainly NOT revising history to point that out." It is revising history to falsely claim Bush was somehow the leader in noting and believing Saddam needed to be taken out. It is revisionism, as the article you posted noted in essence, that Bush somehow lied about WMD's. On and on I could go. Your post is extremely specious, IMHO, in many ways. Dan B.