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To: NOW who wrote (48756)3/27/2006 7:26:26 PM
From: CalculatedRisk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
He is confusing a violation of civil liberties with the diminishment of property rights.

The Fifth Amendment:
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

The absolutists read the fifth and believe its unconstitutional to even tax property or to put limits on the use of property (they would support a strip joint in a residential neighborhood). That was never the intention of the fifth, and it would also be bad economics.

As an aside, the Endangered Species Act is obviously constitutional.



To: NOW who wrote (48756)3/27/2006 8:34:02 PM
From: Oblomov  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Of course I'm against corporate welfare. I did mention farm subsidies, which are overwhelmingly given to agribusiness rather than the yeoman farmer. And who did the S&L bailout favor?

I do believe that the government has been wiretapping since the invention of the telephone.

Usually it is revealed only many years later (as in the case of MLK, etc). What may be unusual about this case is the speed in which it was leaked to the press.