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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (184227)	3/28/2006 2:47:59 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

What doesn't seem to capture the attention of the MSM (this is from a buddy of mine over in Iraq who has some really keen insights.. for a Navy Guy.. ;0): Good new from Iraq found in (no surprise) the Washington Times - February 3, 2006 On Balance The 1st Brigade, 7th Division of the Iraqi Army raided a factory in Ramadi yesterday and arrested 15 suspected insurgents who were thought to belong to a cell of foreign terrorists. Eleven of the 15 suspects are Syrian and 4 were Iraqis, according to the U.S. Marine Corps. The operation -- which took place at 1 P.M. in Ramadi's Tameem district -- also yielded a cache of AK-47s. No casualties were sustained by Iraqi forces, according to the Marine Corps. ================== Good news from Iraq from, of course, the Washington Times - February 3, 2006 excerpts from Looking Past The Body-Count Numbers By Charles P. Moore New Year's resolutions are hard to keep. This year I vowed to look beyond the black clouds of death and destruction rising over Baghdad and other parts of Iraq and seek their meaning before passing judgment. Thucydides, the renowned historian of the war between Athens and Sparta, warned us long ago that "little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." On Jan. 5, during the vetting of Iraqi police volunteers, a suicide bomber exploded his vest, killing 76 and wounding over 100. The major news agencies instantly carried the update showing the obligatory frenetic hospital scenes and bewildered victims. But there is so much more to this story than just wailing mourners and confused emergency rooms ?·if only we had time. This bombing occurred in Ramadi, a former insurgent stronghold. The victims were mostly Sunni men applying to join the Iraqi police. The attacker was most likely a Sunni extremist demented by a virulent Islamist ideology. After the evacuation of the wounded and the dead something truly newsworthy took place. Unfortunately, the cameras were long gone by then. What happened was that the stunned volunteers got back in line. Standing among the scarred concrete blast barriers on a blood-strewn street, the predominantly Sunni men of the city of Ramadi got back in line. These Iraqis ?·mercilessly reminded of the dangers they will face ?· got back in line and refused to be cowed by the insidious act of a lone bomber. Did they get back in line simply because of the high unemployment and a desperate need for dollars, or is this yet increasing evidence of an emerging Iraqi nationalism? I don't know and neither does anyone else. We will never know unless we follow these men through training and back to the streets of Ramadi in the distant future ?·if only we had time. Understanding war is not a part-time profession. Seeing through the blur of misery to eke out the underlying truth requires discipline, effort and time. Learning the real story behind what seem to be outwardly random acts is the key to assessing change. This year I will keep my resolution and fight to rise above vulgar snapshots of information. I will look long enough to find meaning through the destructive gloom. I will remember that they got back in line and take time to ask why. Major Charles Moore is an Army officer serving in Baghdad.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (184227)	3/28/2006 9:09:37 AM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<So instead, you were willing to support a REAL DICTATOR who had defied, subverted, corrupted, and humiliated the United Nations Security Council and the very concept of international law that held him to account for his invasion of Kuwait.. Of course, I speak of Saddam Hussein..>> Isn't this the same guy that WE supported back in the 80's?!? When it was in OUR best interest, WE have supported many dictators. omnicenter.org This glasshouse is way too small to be throwing stones in..... MON