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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (184270)	3/29/2006 9:50:15 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You are right about china and fascism. What becomes dangerous with fascism is that there are no controls in place to prevent hypernationalism and adventurism. Thats probably more a feature of dictatorship in general. Thats also why the american extreme left always uses the term to describe bush because in wartime the president claims additional power. Folks who really dont believe we are at war make the claim. But its important to have the dialogue to remind the president, whether fdr or gwb, that there are limits and that the courts and the congress wont just aquiese to anything and everything.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (184270)	3/29/2006 2:21:46 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Definition from Wikipedia.... "Fascism is associated by many scholars with one or more of the following characteristics: a very high degree of nationalism, economic corporatism, a powerful, dictatorial leader who portrays the nation, state or collective as superior to the individuals or groups composing it." " Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of Italy Seems like Benito had a lot of definitions for fascism. The common theme through researching fascism is it's antithetical nature to Communism or liberalism. Control of the state through corporate means as opposed to control of corporations by the state, in a simplistic sense. Fascism promotes class in society as opposed to a Communist classless system. China is a self proclaimed Communist system and by its nature is the opposite of fascism. It is obviously becoming more and more capitalist while still trying to hold true to it's communist culture. By virtue of this transformation I believe certain aspects of its new society seem fascist in nature however, it is still far from being termed fascist in any political sense. Its only similarity to fascism is really in the power of the state. At some point China will just have to throw the towel in on the whole Communist facade. I just returned from my first visit there and I was simply astounded at the growth and prosperity that I witnessed. Classless society it can certainly not claim to be. The disparity between the upper, middle and lower classes is immense. Also, the upper and middle classes must compose a tiny fraction of the overall population. The mere fact that there exist these classes flies in the face of Communism by definition. Bottom line, if you ask anyone whether China is fascist or communist I think you know what the universal answer will be. Maybe we should just create a new term for their system......how about, Commucapitalism Chinocracy Pretend Communism What do I know?!? MON.