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To: hurricanehicken who wrote (191502)	3/31/2006 5:56:29 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 275872

"Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Xbox 360 using a 3.2 GHz cell processor?" I think so. "And that's, everything under 3.2GHz is useless?" Yes. "As they'd want a high yield for profits sake, I'd guess the average should be a bit a above that." Well, that is a maybe. Current XBox 360s are little toaster boxes. The speculation, probably well founded, is that Microsoft has to overclock many of the machines to get them to the right frequency.

To: hurricanehicken who wrote (191502)	4/1/2006 11:22:44 AM
From: overhols	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

I have no idea if the cell processor being used in Xbox 360 is 3.2 Ghz or not. I do know that it is a completely different processor than an Athlon 64, Opteron or Sempron, which in all probability means a different number of pipeline stages, among other things, that would make this extrapolation of manufacturing capability when making AMD chips, if that was what you meant by it, pretty meaningless. On your comment of high yields for profitability, I am not sure that is true. Microsoft has been selling the Xbox at cost/loss for as long as I can remember, and accepting that because it allows them bigger marketshare in the console market and thus more revenue and profit on the games themselves. From this market volume perspective, they might be much more interested in performance, as that will bring the gamers. Foundries are not particularly known for their great performance or their great yields, so IMHO being a bit conservative regarding yield/performance expectations for Chartered makes a lot of sense. I would be more apt to agree with Combjelly that they could possibly be working on low end Semprons in the 2 Ghz +/- 200 Mhz region.