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To: michael97123 who wrote (184510)	4/4/2006 1:39:38 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

MIchael, re: Tony Zinni obviously got it right from the getgo. If you saw him on Meet The Press you would agree with him 99% of the time, except when he said that now that the war is in progress, we have to do everything in our power not to lose it, because thats how important its become. That's the point Michael, if you use any reasonable definition of "winning" we don't have the power "NOT TO LOSE IT." There's a huge steamroller in motion in Iraq consisting of the will of the majority, the will of the faithful and the passion of the committed. That steamroller is flattening the stacks of hundreds of billions of dollars we're trying to buy a secular government with, the bodies of the soldiers we're trying to put in front of it and those in Iraq who march to the tune of different drummers. Standing in front of that massive steamroller is not worth one more dollar or one more screaming mother left holding the shattered body of an American soldier. We need to get out of Iraq and use diplomacy to salvage something, anything, from the debacle we've created with our occupation. We need to reevaluate our long-standing policy of active intervention in the internal politics of the nations of the Middle East. We need to stop closing our minds to the harsh realities that exist on the other side of the earth. We need to understand the limits of our power and we need to develop the wisdom, courage and patience to absorb painful, non-state delivered blows without reacting in ways that create infernos that consume our young and bankrupt our nation. Fighting for the freedom to live the way we want is admirable. Fighting to force other people to live the way we think they should want to live is folly? arrogance? ignorance? irony? ( )...you choose. Ed