To: average joe who wrote (6137 ) 4/4/2006 7:04:38 AM From: maceng2 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36917 That hope is science. -LOL- How many times does that guy say "once again " in that diatribe? OK, lets be scientific and count them. OK my browser "find" facility says ELEVEN (11) TIMES. Is the author trying to belabor a point? Lets all cheer together... /edit. Better yet lets all make a demostration, placards an all, and continuously CHANT NO MORE "POLITICAL PSEUDOSCIECE"!!! Michael Chrichton is a rank amateur. The worst nightmare of the eugenicists is confirmed. The scenario is set for the feeble minded to rule the planet. It's even worse then that... all those PC's made by Bill Gates actually allow feeble minded people to get jobs. They pretend to know what they are doing without even having to try and think !!!! OK, lets get back to "proper science". As if there was such a thing as "proper science". Although a correct scientific theory may eventualy perculate to the top of the pile of general acceptence, it's route there is by no means a methodical or a rational "scientific" journey. Now (me thinking here) I better get some link to Paul Feyerabend's work. Make sure the readers of the SI Environmentalist thread know the score on the nature of science and scientific method....opps better not use this one marxists.org That link originates from a web site full of COMMIES and, lo and behold, freaking MARKISTS !!! . It might not go down well with right wing neocon GWB supporters. OK, forget that link. Try this onegalilean-library.org /sippet ===========================================================When Feyerabend first published his Against Method, he was explicit concerning his aim: My intention is not to replace one set of general rules by another such set: my intention is, rather, to convince the reader that all methodologies, even the most obvious ones, have their limits. The best way to show this is to demonstrate the limits and even the irrationality of some rules which she, or he, is likely to regard as basic. (1975, 32) He went on to entreat the reader to "always remember that the demonstrations and the rhetorics used do not express any 'deep convictions'" of his. Nevertheless, this work has consistently been described as an attempt to advance and defend the methodological principle "anything goes", so much so that Munévar complained that "it should be an embarrassment to the profession that many reviews were completely unable to see the structure of this simple reductio" (1991, 181). (See Laudan, 1996, for an excellent example of a total misunderstanding that borders on the ridiculous, as well as Newton-Smith, 1981.) As a measure of his exasperation at such empty critiques, Feyerabend’s Science in a Free Society contains an appendix entitled "Conversations with Illiterates" (1975, 125-218) in which he responded to some of his detractors. ============================================================ /end snippet. OK enough philosophy Snuffleupagus. It took WW2 to put an end to "eugenics" as fasionable science. What will it take to settle the argument on human contribution to climate change? The end of the human species? In lifes game of cards, these are big chips to gamble with.In conclusion. Putting the words "eugenics" and "environmentalism" together is just a crude and poor method of bashing environmental science imo.