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To: Elroy who wrote (282924)4/4/2006 11:27:38 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576892
 
"Wouldn't the world and the Kurds be better of if the Kurdish part of present day Turkey were instead part of greater Kurdistan?"

The Turks don't think so. And they seem willing to fight to support their opinion. They've certainly been willing to arrest, jail, torture and kill. Not necessarily in that order or with all the steps.



To: Elroy who wrote (282924)4/4/2006 11:42:52 AM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576892
 
I've said they should be able to train Iraqis to do public security in two months, not to train their army in two months. Manning a checkpoint does not require 3 years of training.

I think we were talking about bringing security to Iraq so our guys can come home (mostly come home anyway). Manning checkpoints does not accomplish this.

Wouldn't the world and the Kurds be better of if the Kurdish part of present day Turkey were instead part of greater Kurdistan? And the Turks would put a barrier between them and the Iraqis. Seems reasonable and a win win all around to me.

It's not that simple.

And I agree there are some areas that are not easily divisible, but if the only other options is civil war (if that is the case), then you might as well reduce the number of people exposed to the civil war. Better to have 3-5 million Iraqis fighting each other rather than all 24 million.

Keeping the country as is is one option, but if they can't live peacefully together, you might as well separate it into regions that are stable and regions that are "other".


Both paths lead to danger of civil war...particularly when you add in the complexity of dividing oil rich regions of iraq.

Al



To: Elroy who wrote (282924)4/6/2006 2:18:01 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576892
 
Wouldn't the world and the Kurds be better of if the Kurdish part of present day Turkey were instead part of greater Kurdistan? And the Turks would put a barrier between them and the Iraqis. Seems reasonable and a win win all around to me.

Why would the Turks want to give up part of their country? After all, some of its important natural resources are located in those mts; its where the headwaters of the Euphrates emanates, providing very needed hydroelectric power to a country dependent on foreign oil; and there are Turks living in those mts along with the Kurds.

Besides, Kurdistan is a creation of the Kurds. There has never been a Kurdistan nor a separate country for the Kurds. Its their fantasy. While I am all for fantasy, why should it be at the expense of someone else?