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To: lorne who wrote (75115)4/5/2006 11:18:56 AM
From: OrcastraiterRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Iran leaders will never give a nuke to terrorists, if it can be traced back to them, because they know that they will be hit and hit hard.

They want their own nuke, because the US and Israel both have them. Cheney is already talking about using nukes on Iran.

My guess is that they want them for the same reasons that the US and Israel want them. Protection.

It is an enigma. No one wants to see a nuclear blast anywhere on the planet. But no country wants the gun pointed at their head, without the gun to point back.

I have a question for you. Do you think that the US would be less inclined or more inclined to attack Iran if they have a nuclear weapon?

Your answer might be the reason that Iran wants them.

Pakistan has them, India has them, China has them, N.Korea has them. We don't attack them do we?

Pakistan has a huge radical islamic population. It seems to me that nukes in that country could be taken over by radical elements.

The more nukes in the world, the worse the situation will be. I do agree about that. The only way to avoid disaster is for every nation to get rid of them. There will be little chance of that happening.

Besides nukes, there are many ways to decimate a population cheaply and effectively, which any terrorist could do. Therefore it seems to me that the way to prevent this is to find a way to end terrorism. That would mean understanding the reasons for terrorists. What do you think causes them to do this?

Orca



To: lorne who wrote (75115)4/5/2006 1:10:05 PM
From: CogitoRespond to of 81568
 
>>I think Iran leaders would supply radical muslims with nukes or other WMD...Yes . The big problem would be to decide which country to vaporize as radical islam could come from any country...even the USA. so maybe it would be a good idea to prevent this scenario from ever happening.

The 9/11 islamic terrorist killers were from different countries and the obtained their weapons from the country they attacked... this war against radical islam is IMO unlike any war the free world has ever faced in the past so maybe new rules need to be applied.<<

Lorne -

You think the leadership of Iran would believe they could supply nukes to radicals with impunity?

After 9/11, we went after the leadership in Afghanistan, because they were openly harboring bin Laden. I supported that action. If Iran were to supply a nuclear weapon to a radical islamist group, they know that we would know where that group got it. They also know that we would come after them if they did that. I would support that action as well.

This war against radical islam IS different. It is so different that relying primarily on the military to fight it isn't working, and will never work. If we try to attack everybody who might harm us first, we will never be secure. It's just not going to work, because we will never be able to find all the people who want to harm us, and we make new enemies when we throw our military weight around.

There is still the moral issue, too. 9/11 may have changed some people's perceptions of what is going on in this world, but it didn't change right and wrong. Attacking and killing people because you think they might attack you is wrong.

This brings us right back to the first point. The innocent die along with the (potentially) guilty when we strike out at our presumed enemies. When we kill innocent people, that gives our real enemies more political ammunition against us, and aids in their recruitment. It's a never ending cycle.

- Allen