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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: average joe who wrote (6185)	4/6/2006 5:59:03 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable ... verifiable is the key word here.

To: average joe who wrote (6185)	4/6/2006 7:36:29 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

Sen. Lisa Murkowski, an Alaska Republican, is a politician as far as I can make out, not a scientist. Politicians live and breath consensus opinions. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period." The first sentence is true at times (often at times), the second sentence is utterly wrong. Replication and verification of scientific data is the ultimate consensus. Crichton's logical reasoning is at fault. He is using rhetoric to make some sort of point that is plainly untrue. If you read my links on Feyerabend, he relates how Crichton's hero... Galileo wasn't above using a little rhetoric to get the "scientific" understanding in order, even if he had to bend some logic a little. Writing in Italian instead of Latin got the mob on his side. Most devious.-g- Galileo prevails because of his style and his clever techniques of persuasion, because he writes in Italian rather than in Latin, and because he appeals to people who are temperamentally opposed to the old ideas and the standards of learning connected with them. And Crichton whines because the church slung his butt in jail? I bet even Galileo himself knew he deserved what he got.