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To: KLP who wrote (184805)4/8/2006 3:04:41 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Does anyone in our Government or the Iraqi Government have any idea where these warheads went?

Nope.. I brought up the subject a number of times with the Subject Matter Experts (SME) when I was with the ISG, but most either had no opinion, or focused upon the evidence they did have of other violations.

But IMO, this was one of the issues that I believe the ISG analysts decided not to focus upon, despite the fact that the discovery of that document was apparently important enough to motivate Saddam to halt all cooperation with the UNSCOM inspection teams. (I wonder why??).

From the Duelfer Report (Iraq Survey Group).

On 18 July 1998, another incident created a confrontation between UNSCOM and Iraqi officials. During an inspection of the operations room at Iraqi Air Force Headquarters, an UNSCOM team found a document containing information about the consumption of special (chemical) munitions during the Iran-Iraq War.

According to Husam Muhammad Amin, former director of the National Monitoring Directorate, “It was laziness on behalf of the Brigadier that the document was found. The Brigadier had more than one hour to hide the document while the inspectors waited at the entrance of the Air Force command. The Brigadier was sent to court and his judgment was imprisonment for 5-10 years in jail.”

The inspection team felt that this document could be helpful in their efforts to verify the material balance of Iraq’s chemical munitions. Rather than take possession of the document, the chief inspector on the team requested a copy. Initially Iraqi officials on the scene agreed; then reneged, saying inspectors could only take notes on the document or receive a redacted copy. The chief inspector objected to these restrictions after which Iraqi officials seized the document from the chief inspector’s hands and refused UNSCOM any further access to the papers. According to Amin, Iraq considered any documentation or discussions detailing the use of chemical weapons to be a redline issue. Iraq did not want to declare anything that documented use of chemical weapons for fear the documentation could be used against Iraq in lawsuits. Iraqi Regime leadership was concerned Iran would seek legal reparations for the death and suffering of Iranian citizens due to Iraq’s use of CW in the 1980s.

From 1998 until 2003, Iraq was unwilling to hand over the Air Force document. According to Tariq ‘Aziz, “In most cases Saddam listened and agreed with me when I would tell him that we must be forthcoming with the UN.” However, ‘Aziz added, “The Higher Committee did not want to release the document to the UN because the delivery times and methods contained in the document were thought to be sensitive.” When pressed further on why the Iraqis were so adamant about maintaining the Air Force document ‘Aziz paused, then stated, “We did not have to hand over the document because it was a matter of our national security.”

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Please note, there the Duelfer Report FAILED to discuss any resolution of the final disposition of those remaining 6000 warheads, although apparently there was an accurate record of where and when chemical weapons were deployed in the war against Iran...

So I have no idea where these 6,000 warheads are. And VERY FEW people seem to want to ask the question that "goes begging" as to why a 33% descrepancy exists between the original Iraqi declaraion of weapons used against Iran, and their own documentation accounting for such deployments.

But of course, it's really does matter... No one wants to answer this question.. The liberal opposition that continues to rely upon heated rhetoric about how, allegedly, "Bush lied" is all that matters.

But facts are stubborn things. Although to the liberals, truth is a moving target which permits them to adjust their aim to those things they can easily hit in order to fulfill their agenda.

But it was apparently enough for Saddam to sentence one of his Brigadier Generals to 5-10 years in an Iraqi presence for failing to prevent disclosure of this information...

In other words, this guy was sentenced for FAILING to "Obstruct Justice" during the UNSCOM inspections.

Hawk




To: KLP who wrote (184805)4/8/2006 4:00:51 PM
From: Don Hurst  Respond to of 281500
 
>>"And those warheads [6,000] have NEVER BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR.

Does anyone in our Government or the Iraqi Government have any idea where these warheads went?"<<

Well we are fairly certain Bush didn't find them in the Oval Office when he searched for them there. Maybe he found them in Crawford.