To: TH who wrote (49434 ) 4/8/2006 11:09:42 PM From: shades Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555 Of course I'm being facetious. Besides, "they" already have my name, and certainly your's too. I sure hope so - else they have the wrong guy in witness protection."They" are largely an incompetent bunch, and I don't give much thought to what they are doing. Me either - why worry about what you cant control - time to watch another episode of the daily show.My comment about taking out five of them is as absurd as the idea that 20 snipers would be interested in taking my gold. They could though - it is a law on the books. I agree they wouldn't do something so violent and forward - in 1932 there was a congress man who said many people were losing thier farms and land to pay back foreign debtors - he got a few attempts on his life. How many people do you think they would take gold from before a militia would form? Militias - have you kept up with all the ones forming to stop the hordes (of people) from coming over the border - does it make a big effect?thedenverchannel.com Students Suspended For Wearing Shirts With American Flagsminutemanhq.com kvoa.com Paul Cicala, kvoa.com A grieving father whose son was killed by a suspected drug smuggler crossing the border illegally has come to Southern Arizona to show support for the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. The border watch group intensified its patrols over the weekend. In August of 2002, 28-year-old Park Ranger Kris Eggle was killed as he pursued a Mexican national who illegally entered the U.S. through the border town of Sonoita, Sonora, Mexico. Kris Eggle’s father, Bob Eggle, says a more secure border could have prevented the death, and has returned to the desert where his son died to voice support for the Minutemen. “(My son) was ambushed and murdered,” says Eggle as he gathered alongside some members of the Minutemen as they stood watch along the border. Kris Eggle was killed in a hail of gunfire traded between a suspected Mexican drug smuggler and Mexican police at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument. The suspected drug smuggler fled into Arizona by driving his car through an open area of the U.S./Mexico border. Eggle says, “Where my son was murdered was not a fence, but (only) a line in the sand." For that rason, Bob Eggle is in Southern Arizona to voice his opinions on strengthening security along the border. Before they start taking private property by force, "they" are going to need to get the guns from the public. Ain't gonna happen. I agree, they wont come out directly and shoot people with swat teams - they will use the same old tricks they always have. Foreclosure, repossession, jails, taxes, etc etc - same as it ever was.I find your disdain for gold amusing. This is an investment thread, and it appears that gold was one of the best performers last year. Gold will not stop corrupt people from hurting you and every other citizen - if everyone believes that - then this country really is finished. Are you certain nothing else went up in price like gold - I already had to correct general chen on this.Do we care if the reasons for the rise if POG are rational? The ends justifies the means eh? hehe Did you invest in something that had a greater return than POG or the miners last year? This year? Vosilla did.As for gold itself, I wonder why you have such a difficult time understanding it's value. Walter Huston had a great line in "Treasure of the Sierra Madre". Huston said that gold is worth what it is worth not just for the work you have to do to get it out of the ground, but also for the work of the other 20 guys who didn't find it. Its value? Ron Paul just wrote an article - he doesn't say buying gold will fix all the problems he talked about. I saw what gold memes did to a ton of bre-x people right here on SI many years ago. In any event, I think we will see a sustained rise in gold over the next few years, and some will profit and some will label it a relic. We will see - I have been to goldbug shows, I have known many goldbugs - I have read about it all through history. How many digital money shows have you been too, how often have you played devils advocate to question your own ideaology like a good scientist does? How many finance journals have you read on the future of money and digital security?cfr.org Here is a very well reasoned arguement for your belief - but the tech people I know have convinced me while the goldbugs play spanish pirate - the world will change around them - the law of nature is adapt or die. I don't hate gold, I have said for a long time now when/if it has some use beyond trying to horde "honest" money I like it just as much as the next guy. What I don't understand is people that think we have to go back to a 19th century economy with gold atoms going back and forth over lines on a map to transact trade amongst 7 billion people on ebay and paypal and such - never gonna happen. Everything I have ever read in any finance journal, any serious economists articles, any technology journal, etc etc - the future is not gonna be a rehash of the past - new ways of doing things will come along in the process of creative destruction. I support you and chen and the rest buying your gold - you can buy all the gold I might have bought - see how nice I am - I wont compete with you for it with my kazillions in resources - you have my share - merry xmas. The next time you are at the gas station and some guy whips out his 1 ounce credit card to pay his 500 dollar gas bill - you laugh at him how you have a gold coin or bag of silver coins to pay with :) What do you do in the future if no one wants your gold? Like those mexicans in sierra madre? Seems to me they are coming over the border for your land and your jobs - not your gold.