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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jamey who wrote (10643)	4/9/2006 7:19:01 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

James > Based on Christian beliefs no one is "good." That is unless you have never had an impure thought or action during your life. According to these standards no one is truly good imo. I know that. The religion makes people "bad" even if they are not -- and then puts them on a treadmill of self-punishment in an attempt to become "good". So, no-one can be "good" -- we are all sinners or worse. Well, I simply don't accept any of that. > Many people obey the law, treat there wives and children decently and try to get along with others. That is not a definition of good To me, it is. I certainly don't think what the US has done in Iraq or the Israelis have done in Palestine is "good" -- but those crimes and obscenities have been legitimized by religion -- in fact, it's as result of religion they were carried out in the first place. I saw how apartheid in South Africa was also justified by religion. In fact, there's no better example than the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. And this story of crimes done in the name of religion, but ostensibly doing "good", goes back in history to time immemorial. > There is a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us. That's self-evident. It always was so and always will be. > Anyone that claims differently is not being honest with their true nature. I agree 100%. So how anyone imagines that by belief in a higher spiritual authority any of it will change is beyond me. I certainly see no actual evidence for "improvement" amongst those who claim to "believe" -- in fact, the contrary -- the religion justifies and provides a facade for their criminal behaviour. No better example of that than your president.