SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: average joe who wrote (6286)4/15/2006 5:21:23 AM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 36917
 
That's a more interesting piece from Crichton. If he didn't sound so fricken ONE DIMENSIONAL (i.e. against all environmentalists) I would perhaps take his view more seriously.

Management of complex systems is something we have gained lots of experience with over the years. The concept of "ecological footprint" seems like a good place to start from. As a person, each one of us needs a certain amount of space and resources to live on.

A little fear is good btw, it wakes you up. Worry as opposed to concern, panic instead of a considered strategy, are human traits that need to be avoided. The trouble is, denial eventually triggers blind panic when an unwelcome development manifests itself.

I still wonder why we (Scotland, UK) have to import BOTTLED MINERAL WATER from FRANCE and elsewhere, when there are GAZZILIONS of TONS of the very best water here already in Scotland. Coals to Newcastle in spades. By way of example, it is not possible to buy a bottle of Scottish mineral water within a half mile of central station Glasgow. That is weird. I can't see how any "free market" principle is involved. Then we have organic runner beans imported from central Africa. One wonders how the "free market" is working with that one. Plenty of business for the airlines though, just need a little oil to keep it all going.

============================================================

news.bbc.co.uk

Britain now 'eating the planet'
By Mark Kinver
BBC News science and nature reporter

Consumer societies: Good for business or bad for the planet?
The UK is about to run out of its own natural resources and become dependent on supplies from abroad, a report says.

A study by the New Economics Foundation (Nef) and the Open University says 16 April is the day when the nation goes into "ecological debt" this year.

It warns if annual global consumption levels matched the UK's, it would take 3.1 Earths to meet the demand.

In 1961, the symbolic "ecological debt day" was 9 July; in 1981, it had shifted forward two months to 14 May.

The authors of the UK Interdependence Report hope to highlight the need to curb rising consumption levels.

'Eyes bigger than planet'

Nef policy director Andrew Simms says this year's debt day shows that the UK's growing demand for goods and services is having an impact on the rest of the world.

UK'S GROWING ECO-FOOTPRINT

In 1961, the Earth could have supported everyone having a UK lifestyle
It would take 3.1 planets to support the current UK lifestyle
"On one level, there is absolutely nothing wrong with importing goods and services, but our eyes are bigger than the planet.

"The problem is that we want to have our planet and eat it and not think about the consequences," Mr Simms said.

The findings are based on the concept of "ecological footprints", a system of measuring how much land and water a human population needs to produce the resources it consumes and absorb the resulting waste.

The report, produced by Nef and the Open University's geography department, uses a number of examples that it says illustrate how resources are being wasted, including:

In 2004, the UK exported 1,500 tonnes of fresh potatoes to Germany, and imported 1,500 tonnes of the same product from the same country
Imported 465 tonnes of gingerbread, but exported 460 tonnes of the same produce
Sent 10,200 tonnes of milk and cream to France, yet imported 9,900 tonnes of the dairy goods from France
The authors say this shows how current trade systems are inefficient at a time when there is concern over energy supplies and greenhouse gas emissions.

"If you do not have the right signals within the economy to tell you when you are doing something very environmentally wasteful, then you cannot expect it to stop," says Mr Simms, the report's lead author.

"Lifestyles in Britain are becoming increasingly unsustainable and are placing an ever larger burden on the global environmental system."

The UK's food self-sufficiency has been falling steadily for more than a decade, and indigenous food production is now said to be at its lowest level for half a century.

In 2004, the UK lost its energy independent status when it became a net importer of gas following lower returns from the North Sea fields.


At a global level, the world is also living beyond ecosystems' ability to supply the resources and absorb the demands being placed upon them.

This year's ecological debt day for the world is 23 October.

In the future, it is expected to be even earlier as emerging economies, such as China and India, demand more resources to meet changing lifestyles.

"The earlier it creeps in the year, the more you are permanently running down the Earth's environmental capital.

"The problem is that we are not clever enough to know at what point we will see a crash within eco-systems," Mr Simms told the BBC News website.

"While you are not living within the planet's limits and are eroding ecosystems, and the earlier the ecological day falls in the year, the greater the risk of a system crash."

Mr Simms said developed nations had a responsibility to share their experience and knowledge with developing nations in order to limit the impact on the environment.

However, he added, despite the sharp rise in economic growth in the emerging economies, their consumption levels were still far behind developed nations.

Give and take

Steve Bettison, from the free-market think tank, Adam Smith Institute, described the report as "an interesting concept" but questioned its findings on market inefficiencies.


Potato exports to Germany equal what Germany sends to the UK
"The only inefficiencies in the market place are those that relate to government intervention and that do not allow for free trade to occur, such as tariffs on agricultural products, or protectionist measures."

Mr Bettison said market forces were the best way to control consumption of the world's finite resources: "The usual 'supply and demand' economics will govern where these resources are used.

"This would also drive human ingenuity as people strive to develop new ideas to take up where previous resource supplies have waned," he told the BBC News website.



UK generation - you choose
Electricity calculator
"It would be interesting to see how the rest of the world is dependent on the services and resources that we have developed over time.

"Whilst we take, we also give - something that seems to have been forgotten."

Andrew Simms said the report was not calling for the UK's borders to be closed because there were many benefits, both economic and cultural, to be gained from closer ties with other nations.

The report builds on previous studies that have used "ecological footprint" measurements, such as the WWF's "one planet living" campaign.

It also echoes last year's Millennium Ecosystem Assessment, the most comprehensive survey ever into the state of the planet. It concluded that human activities threatened the Earth's ability to sustain future generations.

Nef and the Open University hope the "ecological debt day" will be used as an annual yardstick to measure the health of the planet.