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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (75523)	4/16/2006 9:39:42 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Re: "The difference between a lie and an error lies in the motivation more than the calculation." Motivation? As I was saying dude, you don't even comprehend the difference. Now, the above does not explain anything, it just makes a very basic and widely understood clear cut difference between two terms seem a tad nebulous. You say now the difference is part motivation, and part calculation, but but mostly motivation. What the hell, frankly, do you think that delineates? Where do you get this illogic? Re: "You've gone on record that you agree with the war in Iraq. We know your motivation." Pray tell me why I believe as I do, great swami! Re: "It's to supply propaganda which supports your position." So, now I'm motivated to be for the war in Iraq because I want to supply propaganda supporting the war in Iraq. Isn't that a bit of circular ado going nowhere and explaining nothing of anyone's motivation let alone mine? I think so! But I'll remember that you think I support the war in Iraq because I have an underlying need to report false propaganda supporting the war in Iraq. You've completely lost it. You don't seem even aware that you've not named a motivation at all. Re: "Is it any wonder then that you would then post that propaganda from the SEP with no qualification what so ever?" Is it any wonder that I'd share with you something the S.E. Post had to say (not me), so that you've have something to complain about? No. Re: "And you are also on record now, saying that you never believed what you posted to be true." No, I did not claim it was true. The S.E.Post said it was true. In fact, my only comment as to its truth was that I doubt it. I never stated otherwise. I only asked you if you were aware of what S.E.Post said. You probably aren't aware of the difference between an accurate honest question, and a lie. You seem to wish to imply I believed it despite all the evidence going against you. Yes, I posted it for you to peruse, knowing exactly how I felt about it, and wishing to learn what garbage you'd spawn over it. I learned. Re: "So, to summarize, you stated something that you did not believe..." False. I did not try to make the S.E.Posts claim my own, I gave them full credit for stating what THEY stated (not me), and only asked you if you were aware of what they had published. I gave no attribution to myself and offered no judgement one way or the other initially (neither way, get it?). Re: "....in support of your tightly held belief that the war in Iraq is a "good" war." Actually, I wouldn't view that blurb as supportive of the notion that the Iraq war is a good war, even if the blurb proved to make perfect statistical sense (something which it may, for all I can tell from your wholly inadequate analysis). Whether the war is good or bad has nothing to do with, at least not in my mind, the number of firearm deaths occurring in Iraq, D.C., or anywhere else. Re: "It's clear that you are motivated to say anything so long as it supports your war. That my friend fits neatly into my definition of a lie." It is clear that you don't know the definition of a lie. It also would seem you can't decipher the difference between a lie and a question which accurately represented the S.E.Post's statement. Re: "You lie here to us on this board..." Where? In this case? I KNOW I've not. I told the truth of what the S.E.Post said, and asked you if you'd seen it knowing you'd find it highly doubtable, as I had. Re: "There's no lower place for you to go than lying to yourself." Time to look at yourself, my friend. I've not seen anyone ever step deeper into BS than you regularly have on this thread. There was a mischievous grin on my face when I reported what the S.E.Post had to say. Reporting what the Post said certainly wasn't lying, whether you understand that fact yet or not. The Post blurb was so obviously curious it simply had to draw your comment, I thought. I think I got that right. Dan B.