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To: UncleBigs who wrote (58407)4/17/2006 1:21:44 AM
From: Nikole Wollerstein  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
Uncle, the trouble goes much deeper we should have stayed out of WWII
First we it was a mistake to offend Japanese by cutting
their oil supplies and should have let them do in Asia whatever they want
to do .
and then we should have left to Hitler and Stalin to sort thing out in Europe.



To: UncleBigs who wrote (58407)4/17/2006 6:19:43 AM
From: skinowski  Respond to of 110194
 
LOL! I almost regret having mentioned the potential nuking of Israel - because it seems this was the only part of my post which got any attention. What about the rest of it? Here it is:

....I don't think that isolationism is a solution. It was probably never an option, really - not since the advent of technology and the shrinking of the world. I accept NONE of Osama bin Laden's "reasons" for bombing NYC. In the final analysis he did it because he is a f*cking nut - and if people like him get nukes, Canada and the Swiss will be in trouble too.

OK... let's assume, the planet will be able to recover from the "mini nuclear winter" which would result from the "tribal" war between Arabs - or, rather Iran - and Israel. But what about other inevitable "tribal" nuclear warfare which would follow? And what about various state sponsored (or independent) individuals and leaders of micro- and macro- varieties who would elect to "empower" themselves by getting nukes?

In a discussion like this one there are many ways to lose focus and get distracted by aspects of issues - like, someone here asked me to show "news items" which would specifically mention the threat by Iran to "nuke" Israel. While it's not hard to make an argument that the use of nukes would be extremely likely in any full scale conflict between those two nations, I think the central point here is about a related, but larger issue. Pandora's box has been opened, and the question is whether humans will be able to contain its contents... and prevent them from killing us all.



To: UncleBigs who wrote (58407)4/17/2006 2:17:24 PM
From: sammy™ -_-  Respond to of 110194
 
Whether Israel has the ability to take the needed preemptive action is an open question. Indeed, my prediction is that, for misguided political and diplomatic reasons, the United States will pressure Israel not to engage in a first strike—thereby ensuring that the time and manner of the coming war will be chosen by Iran.