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To: ahhaha who wrote (8070)	4/17/2006 4:51:19 PM
From: THE ANT	Respond to of 24758

Just a quick story about the conscious I heard from a Dr Duffy a neurologist from NIH?NIMH? at the time.To have a true loss of consciousness(faint)you need bilateral brain involvement.There are some seizure pts who are not responsive to medications and they lose consciousness multiple times a week with resulting severe falls and injuriesIn these cases a surgical procedure of cutting the corpus callosum(fibers that communicate between the two brain hemispheres)is sometimes done to prevent the seizure from generalizing(crossing to the other hemisphere)and thus isolating the seizure to one side and maintaining consciousness and preventing falls. A study was done with young men who had corpous callosotomies.An optical device was used so that a picture of a car entered the eyes but only went to the left brain.A picture of a naked woman was displayed so only the right brain could see it.Usually the CC would allow the images to be seen by the whole brain but not in this case.When asked what they saw the men would say "a car"and yet they would flush,their pulse would pick up,and they would loosen the top button of their shirt.When asked why they where acting this way the usuall answer was "doc its hot in here"The comment was made that that is the story of our lives:The left brain lies for our right brain When I told this story to one student they said"your theory could be wrong some men do respond to cars that way"

To: ahhaha who wrote (8070)	4/17/2006 4:54:33 PM
From: THE ANT	Respond to of 24758

Just a quick story about the conscious I heard from a Dr Duffy a neurologist from NIH?NIMH? at the time.To have a true loss of consciousness(faint)you need bilateral brain involvement.There are some seizure pts who are not responsive to medications and they lose consciousness multiple times a week with resulting severe falls and injuriesIn these cases a surgical procedure of cutting the corpus callosum(fibers that communicate between the two brain hemispheres)is sometimes done to prevent the seizure from generalizing(crossing to the other hemisphere)and thus isolating the seizure to one side and maintaining consciousness and preventing falls. A study was done with young men who had corpous callosotomies.An optical device was used so that a picture of a car entered the eyes but only went to the left brain.A picture of a naked woman was displayed so only the right brain could see it.Usually the CC would allow the images to be seen by the whole brain but not in this case.When asked what they saw the men would say "a car"and yet they would flush,their pulse would pick up,and they would loosen the top button of their shirt.When asked why they where acting this way the usuall answer was "doc its hot in here"The comment was made that that is the story of our lives:The left brain lies for our right brain When I told this story to one student they said"your theory could be wrong some men do respond to cars that way"

To: ahhaha who wrote (8070)	4/18/2006 12:17:16 AM
From: Solid	Respond to of 24758

So if consciousness is a brain process, soul is in the brain. 'if'...Conditionality, a direct blood kin to judgement and we know where raw judgement can take us if not careful. Very useful and necessary indeed. As is the faculty of discernment, as you know a very useful faculty member indeed and in short supply these days it would seem on many campuses. John The Baptist gave his head [allegence to 'thinking' alone as all powerful] in trade for the heart, truth. His voice in the wilderness of everyday human awareness faded as the voice for truth arrived in actuality. The old testament represents in part the way of lawfulness. The new testament, a paradigm shift from earning by lawfulness to the way of knowing by direct experience [your meditation reference] represented by the heart center. Jesus gave his body, brain and heart included, because as he stated, 'I must go or the comforter will not come.' IN essence, -You can do these things I demonstrate also but you'll never know how if you always turn to look for me to do it for you. That invisible 'cellphone within' resides inside our own awareness. We all hear it, the one we remember as trying to tip us off usually, to help us out, the one we 'remember' tried to tell us, but never the one that ridicules or chides, there are countless imposters for those 'voices' from our life. Learning to listen and understand is work. Some say that work is the only game in town. Our challenge is impressive. We need to be, 'In the world' ...to gain the experience and knowledge, by being fully human, that this is not exclusive of other dimensions and so realize the simple yet utterly profound truthfulness of... 'but not of the world.' No easy feat after arriving here in the usual way. The mind is a great tool and our masterful development of it and use of it is very important or we can do little of significance to mark our being physical. Yet that which is potent for good is potent for harm as well. Not only sought after quarry fall into camoflouged pits. The mind is a great tool, did I say that? Like a tail, every dog has one. Silly if the tail wagged the dog. All 'things' can be argued ad nauseum and to infinitiy and beyond I suppose...I am not here to argue on this merely to add my two pennies- A dear friend of mine, Jack Swartz, survived imprisonment by the Nazi's in WWII and extreme torture and punishment. He whispered under his breath each day to his guard while being beaten, hanging from his strapped wrists, 'I love you, I love you.' Asked why he replied,and I'll paraphrase, -If I were to hate and allow my awareness to fall to that dark place of thought then I know I would have died. I chose to see that who he 'thought' he was was an illusion of his egoic belief, that in reality he was of the same life that we all are. I knew I had much to do here in life and that I would not die here- He and one friend he made who later became a Dr., lived while over 500 originally imprisoned with them died. He authored several books and taught many courses. Joseph Campbel was also a friend of his. Jack had a very telling observation in line with your questioning premise, 'All of the body is within the mind but not all of the mind is within the body.' His discussions on brainwave frequency were fascinating and enlightening. Everyday consciousness a kin to local news and weather, short range and open to lots of interference. Expanded states a kin to global and universal news, much more penetrating and freer of the usual clutter. A statement hard to assess. But not impossible to experience. Footprints are everywhere though proofs are powerless without the personal experience. Here is one I have discovered, is it possible to make the reality of love physical? Not as an act or action but to literally make what we call love, physical? A wedding ring? Just a symbol. A playground? Symbol. A... And yet, what has more worth then anything else ultimately? A wonderful paradox... Warm regards-